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Dr. Jarrett Rose reveals groundbreaking research from inside a week-long psychedelic retreat in Jamaica where 11 strangers took escalating doses of psilocybin—and discovered something clinical trials are missing entirely.
Guest Bio:Dr. Jarrett Rose is an Assistant Professor of Sociology at SUNY Polytechnic Institute studying psychedelic culture and group therapy dynamics. A former high school dropout who was medicated with Ritalin against his will, he earned his PhD from York University in Toronto and now conducts participant-observation research in real-world psychedelic settings. He recently published groundbreaking research on collective effervescence in psychedelic therapy and is collaborating with Dr. Daniel Kruger on psychedelic community studies.
Key Topics:
- Why 99% of psychedelic therapy happens in groups, not clinical trials
- The economics making individual therapy impossible for most people
- How "collective effervescence" amplifies healing outcomes beyond individual sessions
- Escalating doses: 3-5g, then 5-7g, then 7-10g over one week
- Building therapeutic community vs. sterile medical settings
- Social integration as crucial missing piece in clinical research
TIMESTAMPS:[02:48] Dr. Rose introduction - from Utica to Toronto[04:00] Personal balance: golf, surfing, and academic life[07:00] "I failed out of high school" - ADHD and Ritalin[10:47] From dropout to PhD: the inspiration story[11:00] Dr. Miller's Cokenders program - Ritalin to cocaine pipeline[12:00] Marriage across borders: Utica to Toronto love story[15:45] Dr. Miller's wife's cancer journey and dense breast tissue warning[19:00] Radical transparency in personal conversations[20:00] Why individual psychedelic therapy costs are unsustainable[21:00] The 99% reality: underground and group-based therapy[23:00] Myco Meditations Jamaica research methodology[26:00] "From Isolation to Social and Psychedelic Integration" study[28:00] Clinical trials vs. real-world group dynamics[30:00] 11 strangers becoming therapeutic allies[32:00] Opening up about "deepest, darkest fears"[33:00] Collective effervescence in healing communities[34:00] Collaboration with Dr. Daniel Kruger on psychedelic surveys[36:00] The dosing protocol: escalating 3-5g to 7-10g[38:00] Integration circles: 11 participants, 8-9 therapists[40:00] The price reality: $8,000-$10,000+ per retreat[42:00] 70% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck[44:00] Vision for accessible group therapy clinics[47:00] Howard Becker's social learning theory of drug use[49:00] Brotherhood of Eternal Love and Timothy Leary connection[51:00] Modern surfers and medicalized psychedelic use
Resources:
Journal article: "From Isolation to Social and Psychedelic Integration: A Sociology of Collective Effervescence and Therapeutic Community in Psychedelic‐Assisted Therapy" (Sociology of Health and Illness 2025)
Myco Meditations Jamaica retreat program
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Dr. Jarrett Rose reveals groundbreaking research from inside a week-long psychedelic retreat in Jamaica where 11 strangers took escalating doses of psilocybin—and discovered something clinical trials are missing entirely.
Guest Bio:Dr. Jarrett Rose is an Assistant Professor of Sociology at SUNY Polytechnic Institute studying psychedelic culture and group therapy dynamics. A former high school dropout who was medicated with Ritalin against his will, he earned his PhD from York University in Toronto and now conducts participant-observation research in real-world psychedelic settings. He recently published groundbreaking research on collective effervescence in psychedelic therapy and is collaborating with Dr. Daniel Kruger on psychedelic community studies.
Key Topics:
- Why 99% of psychedelic therapy happens in groups, not clinical trials
- The economics making individual therapy impossible for most people
- How "collective effervescence" amplifies healing outcomes beyond individual sessions
- Escalating doses: 3-5g, then 5-7g, then 7-10g over one week
- Building therapeutic community vs. sterile medical settings
- Social integration as crucial missing piece in clinical research
TIMESTAMPS:[02:48] Dr. Rose introduction - from Utica to Toronto[04:00] Personal balance: golf, surfing, and academic life[07:00] "I failed out of high school" - ADHD and Ritalin[10:47] From dropout to PhD: the inspiration story[11:00] Dr. Miller's Cokenders program - Ritalin to cocaine pipeline[12:00] Marriage across borders: Utica to Toronto love story[15:45] Dr. Miller's wife's cancer journey and dense breast tissue warning[19:00] Radical transparency in personal conversations[20:00] Why individual psychedelic therapy costs are unsustainable[21:00] The 99% reality: underground and group-based therapy[23:00] Myco Meditations Jamaica research methodology[26:00] "From Isolation to Social and Psychedelic Integration" study[28:00] Clinical trials vs. real-world group dynamics[30:00] 11 strangers becoming therapeutic allies[32:00] Opening up about "deepest, darkest fears"[33:00] Collective effervescence in healing communities[34:00] Collaboration with Dr. Daniel Kruger on psychedelic surveys[36:00] The dosing protocol: escalating 3-5g to 7-10g[38:00] Integration circles: 11 participants, 8-9 therapists[40:00] The price reality: $8,000-$10,000+ per retreat[42:00] 70% of Americans living paycheck to paycheck[44:00] Vision for accessible group therapy clinics[47:00] Howard Becker's social learning theory of drug use[49:00] Brotherhood of Eternal Love and Timothy Leary connection[51:00] Modern surfers and medicalized psychedelic use
Resources:
Journal article: "From Isolation to Social and Psychedelic Integration: A Sociology of Collective Effervescence and Therapeutic Community in Psychedelic‐Assisted Therapy" (Sociology of Health and Illness 2025)
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