In 1967 after 74 successful combat missions over Vietnam, Fighter Pilot Captain Charlie Plumb was shot down in his F-4 Phantom jet. On his 75th mission, only 5 days before he was to return home. Captured, brutally tortured and imprisoned in the Hanoi Hilton where Charlie remained a prisoner of war for the next 6 years. I know I say this too often but this conversation was truly fascinating and Charlie is an incredible human with a story that’s hard to comprehend, and at times, listen to. He endured more hardship and suffering every single day for six years, than I’ve endured in all my days collectively.

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