If your relationship with area rugs is best described as "it's complicated", well, this is the episode for you. We're sharing five simple rug rules to help you choose the right size, style, and figure out what to do in adjoining rooms. Plus we talk to Flipping Out's Jenni Pulos, who has survived years of stressful renovations and reality TV drama, all while helping Jeff Lewis keep his head on straight. She's full of great advice and she even busts a rhyme with Sherry. We also share what tool John's dying to add to his arsenal, what it's really like to go on a book tour, and we look beyond the ever-popular fiddle leaf fig.

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