Leadership isn’t about doing it all yourself - it’s about building high-performing teams, protecting your vision, and knowing when to evolve. In this episode, Jane sits down with her close friend Jude, a keynote speaker and masterful moderator who knows how to shake up workplace culture and spark action through storytelling. Who better to put Jane in the hot seat than one of her closest mates?

 

They dive into the realities of building a business: hiring generalists before specialists, creating a culture of trust, fun, and psychological safety, and knowing when to outgrow people without guilt. Jane shares lessons from failure, feedback, and high-pressure growth moments, showing how optimism, authenticity, and clear vision are what really drive teams forward.

 

This is leadership unfiltered - the stumbles, the tough calls, and the resilience it takes to keep moving. Whether you’re building your first team or navigating the next stage of growth, Jane and Jude offer honest, actionable insights that will leave you thinking differently about what it takes to lead.

 

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