What happens when two Vinces meet? A show filled with bold ideas, heartfelt stories, and actionable insights.

Vince Chan welcomes Vince Jeong, CEO of Sparkwise, to discuss his evolution from a young immigrant navigating culture shock at 12 to an industry disruptor leading an edtech revolution. Along the way, Vince J reveals his mission to scale human connection in corporate training and bring McKinsey-level development to the masses.

With lessons on overcoming challenges, innovating in people development, and rethinking adult learning, this is an episode designed to spark your ambition and redefine what’s possible.

Immigrant Experience 101: Learning English and Rediscovering Myself at Age 12

Learning by Doing: The Best Way to Discover What You Really Want. Why Theorizing Only Gets You So Far.

“I’ve often found that you can only really discover and learn your true preferences by gaining first-hand experience. Theorizing only gets you so far.”

Bringing McKinsey’s Gold Standard to Everyone: The Spark Behind Creating an EdTech for Live Group Learning

“At McKinsey, people fought to get onto training programs. It was interactive, engaging, and team-based. I thought that’s what corporate training looked like everywhere—until I saw the difference in other organizations.”

From TV Host to Startup Boss: The Founder-Market Fit of Live Group Learning

“Throughout my life, I’ve just been involved in a lot of things that involve live groups. I used to be on TV in Korea, hosting live shows and facilitating conversations.”

Differentiation Value to Create: Scaling the Unscalable

"What we're doing is we're taking that experience that today can only be accessed by really privileged settings and making it much more accessible to many more people through technology."

Rebuilding Stronger Community: Foster Real Connections Beyond Social Media’s Shallow Bonds

“We create an environment where people solve problems together that are realistic but fictitious, which helps them engage deeply without having to be vulnerable from the get-go.”

Partners in Crime: Those Who Crave Rich Interactions or Scale Quality Learning at a Bargain

Turning Idle Content into Action: Beating AI with Human-to-Human Engagement for Deeper Learning

“There’s a lot of idle content out there today, and simply reading is rarely the best way for people to actually understand those concepts.”

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