The Julia La Roche Show

#132 Morgan Housel: Save Like A Pessimist And Invest Like An Optimist


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Bestselling author Morgan Housel, partner at The Collaborative Fund and first-ever guest on The Julia La Roche Show returns for episode 132 to discuss his newest New York Times Bestseller Same As Ever: A Guide to What Never Changes. Morgan’s first book The Psychology of Money has sold over four million copies and been translated into 50 languages worldwide.

Morgan is a two-time winner of the Best in Business Award from the Society of American Business Editors and Writers, and winner of the New York Times Sidney Award. In 2022, MarketWatch named him one of the 50 most influential people in markets. He serves on the board of directors at Markel. 


Takeaways

  • Managing expectations is crucial for happiness and success.
  • Social media can lead to inflated expectations and feelings of inadequacy.
  • Envy and the pursuit of status and success can hinder happiness.
  • Unforeseen consequences and tail risks play a significant role in shaping our lives.
  • Personal experiences can shape our perception of risk and influence our decision-making. Economic forecasts are in high demand because they reduce uncertainty, even if their track record is poor.
  • Calm periods in the economy or markets can lead to instability and eventual crises.
  • Simplicity and endurance are key to successful long-term investing.
  • Charlie Munger's legacy lies in his wisdom and willingness to share it with others.
  • Writing is a process of self-discovery and learning.

  • Timestamps 

    00:00 Introduction and Catching Up

    01:08 Surprising Success of 'The Psychology of Money'

    02:24 The Value of Low Expectations

    04:08 Managing Expectations and Balancing Optimism

    07:28 The Dangers of High Expectations and Social Media

    09:37 The Gap Between Expectations and Reality

    12:59 The Inflation of Expectations

    15:11 The Impact of Social Media on Happiness

    18:30 Envy and the Pursuit of Status and Success

    23:39 Risk and the Unforeseen Consequences

    26:17 The World Hanging by a Thread

    31:41 Personal Story: Skiing Accident and Risk Aversion

    40:32 The Demand for Economic Forecasts

    43:01 Calm Plants the Seeds of Crazy

    46:00 Investment Strategy: Simplicity and Endurance

    48:23 Charlie Munger's Legacy

    51:08 Writing for Self-Discovery

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