Elder Bruce R. McConkie once proclaimed, "Obedience is the first law of heaven," which is an interesting statement when compared with Jesus's declaration that the first of all laws is love. Has the modern Church followed Elder McConkie's path, overemphasizing obedience over love? More recently, President Russell M. Nelson has proclaimed that "Obedience brings blessings, and exact obedience brings miracles."

All of this is interesting for when we examine that actual scriptural meaning of "obedience" we find that it means nearly the opposite from claims like this. Can we turn "obedience" into mindfulness and love? This episode explores the dangers of "exact obedience" and the joys of turning obedience upside down.

Listen in on this conversation between two Faith Journey Foundation chairs: Mark Crego and Dan Wotherspoon