This week, Jen and Pete noodle on and thrash about all things related to joy: What is joy? What's it for? Where does joy come from? How might we create it? 

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• What might be a process to manifest joy in your life?
• How can joy come from unexpected places?
• Where does Jen find joy? And Pete?

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