A not so short conversation mostly about short course racing with the news that Lucy Charles-Barclay is lining up at WTCS Leeds. How will the superstar of long course go against the world's fastest triathletes?

We also look at all the action from Iron Man Tulsa where Daniela Ryf dominated and Patrick Lange returned to the top of the podium. We go through all the action from Lisbon and discuss what Kristian Blummenfelt's incredible form will mean for a little race in Tokyo later this year.

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