Lauren Thoman joins Amy Fritz to answer that accusation that podcasts like The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill are "failure ".  They argue the value of listening to these accounts, discuss how the idea that we are all wrong about something should shape the way we interact with other people and ideas, and they dive into a bit of the story of how Christianity Today reported on spiritual abuse allegations at Bethlehem Baptist. Find us here: Twitter: Amy Fritz Untangled Faith Lauren Thoman

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