This is an episode from the Broken to Beloved podcast with Brian Lee. Brian interviews Scot Mcknight and Tommy Preson Philips about their new book Invisible Jesus: A Book about Leaving the Church and Looking for Christ

• The Myth of a Christian Nation by Greg Boyd on Bookshop | Amazon
• Revelation for the Rest of Us by Scot McKnight & Cody Hatchett on Bookshop | on Amazon

Scot has been a professor of NT for more than four decades. He is the author of more than 90 books, including the award-winning The Jesus Creed as well as A Church Called TOV.

Tommy Preson Phillips is a pastor at Watermark Church in Tampa, FL. He is also a songwriter and recording artist with his band Preson Phillips. He holds an MA in NT from Northern Seminary. 

Scot: Website | Instagram | Twitter/X | Threads

Tommy: Substack | Instagram | Threads | Preson Phillips band

Get your copy of Invisible Jesus on Amazon | on Bookshop

Links in these show notes are affiliate links that pay a small portion of the purchase price to Brian Lee at Broken to Beloved at no extra cost to you.

• Lore Wilbert joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about her book, "A Curious Faith," and the spiritual discipline of curiosity, revisiting themes of certainty, vulnerability, and the role of questioning within faith communities.

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In this episode, we:

• Explore the themes and inspirations behind Lore Wilbert's book, "A Curious Faith."

• Discuss the societal expectation of certainty within faith communities and the richness found in admitting uncertainty

• Learn about Lore’s experiences with using curiosity as a protective mechanism and its impacts on relationships.

• Reflect on the biblical story of Moses through a chapter from Lori's book, emphasizing the significance of unexpected life challenges.

• Highlight the need for ethical responsibility in acknowledging sources and giving proper credit, discussing issues of plagiarism in Christian publishing.

• Address the complexity of accepting both good and bad elements in the world through a Christian perspective.

• Consider the importance of curiosity as a spiritual discipline and its role in fostering understanding and genuine faith.

Podcast Guest

• Lore Wilbert (1) S A Y A B L E | Lore Wilbert | Substack 

Resources:

A Curious Faith by Lore Wilbert https://amzn.to/41rzkPg

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Melissa J. Hogan, joins Amy Fritz to revisit the 1986 marriage book His Needs, Needs by Dr. Willard Harley.

Does it hold up? Did it ever hold up?

What happens when a spouse who is struggling in their marriage and hoping for a way to save it picks up this book?

Melissa's substack: Res Ipsa launches on January 3, 2025. - by Melissa J. Hogan

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Amy Fritz is joined by her husband, Nathan, to discuss the year 2000 NYT Best Selling book, The Prayer of Jabez.

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Amy wraps up the series on faith and politics and shares some reflections on the results of the 2024 election and what's up next for the podcast.

Resources:

Jen Pollock Michel Substack Article: https://jenpollockmichel.substack.com/p/writing-and-reading-in-our-political

Hannah Anderson Article: https://thedispatch.com/newsletter/dispatch-faith/remembering-humility-as-a-virtue/?utm_content=buffer2da79&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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116 How Evangelicals Aligned with Republicans: A Conversation with Chris Staron (untangledfaithpodcast.com)

115: What Happens When You Mix Politics and Faith with Kaitlyn Schiess (untangledfaithpodcast.com)

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Sara Billups joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss how the focus on end times, culture wars, and consumerism in the evangelical church formed many of us growing up in the 80s and 90s. 

"If I'm being formed by these forces, in what ways am I being formed by Jesus?" – Sara Billups

Stuff we talk about:

Sara's faith and family history.

The Moral Majority

Our desire for a common enemy

Consumerism and prosperity gospel

The importance of community

Resources:

Orphaned Believers: https://amzn.to/3ULDoFy

Jesus and John Wayne: https://amzn.to/3ULDoFy

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116 How Evangelicals Aligned with Republicans: A Conversation with Chris Staron (untangledfaithpodcast.com)

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If you seek a deeper understanding of aligning your faith and politics, this episode offers some thought-provoking insights and practical take-aways regarding what it looks like to have your Christian faith inform your vote.

Amy Fritz is joined by her husband, Nathan, and they talk about:

The importance of diverse voices.

Pro-life v. Pro-choice complexities.

Border security and immigration

Voting for a president.

Beyond straight-party voting.

Love God. Love your neighbor

Resources:

What About Abortion? Should this one issue determine how Christians vote?

(1) Why the Freedom to Choose Matters to Me - by Lore Wilbert

When Does Life Begin?

(1) Beyond the "Christian" Voter Guide - by Amy Fritz

Home - Women of Welcome

Common Questions - Women of Welcome

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Amy Fritz is joined by her husband, Nathan Fritz, on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss their chainging relationship with faith and politics, particularly in the context of the 2016 election and its aftermath.

"It's not just that we don't all think the same, and there isn't necessarily a clear biblical rule on every political thing. We might value some of the same things, but not everybody agrees on how to get to that place."– Amy Fritz

In this episode we talk about:

• What started our process of rethinking the "Christian" approach to politics.

• Trump Derangement Syndrome.

• What it means to vote for policies as opposed to a person.

• The problem with "mean Tweets".

• Examine government inefficiencies while recognizing its role in providing necessary support.

• The role of the Church in providing social safety nets.

• Consider the impact of media and public perception on faith and politics, including concerns about media legitimacy and the term "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS)."

Resources:

https://currentpub.com/2016/06/25/james-dobson-on-the-character-of-the-president-of-the-united-states/

https://news.gallup.com/poll/235022/presidential-moral-leadership-less-important-republicans.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

https://thepreamble.com/p/jemar-tisby-advice-for-single-issue

https://www.cnn.com/2015/09/13/politics/barack-obama-religion-christian-misperceptions/index.html

https://ministrywatch.com/health-share-ministries-face-growing-chorus-of-complaints-and-lawsuits

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116 How Evangelicals Aligned with Republicans: A Conversation with Chris Staron (untangledfaithpodcast.com)

115: What Happens When You Mix Politics and Faith with Kaitlyn Schiess (untangledfaithpodcast.com)

Where you can find me:

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Chris Staron joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss the ties between evangelicalism and the Republican Party and the impact of societal changes on faith and politics.

“No party is going to be 100% a christian party. And if they were, I'd actually be really suspicious of them.” – Chris Staron

In this episode we:

• Talk about the history of how evangelical Christianity became associated with the Republican Party.

• Discuss the impact of government regulations and civil rights changes on business owners, using historical examples.

• Explore Ronald Reagan's appeal to evangelical voters and the shift from Jimmy Carter’s presidency.

• Reflect on how race, economics, and societal unrest influenced evangelicals' political affiliations.

Find Chris Staron:

Chris Staron, Author at Truce Podcast

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Tune in next week for a heartfelt conversation with Amy's husband about the intersections of politics and faith.

Katilyn Schiess joins Amy Fritz for a conversation about faith and politics.

Resources:

• Purchase Kaitlyn's new book: The Ballot and the Bible. https://amzn.to/3DNVy0L

• Follow Kaitlyn: https://kaitlynschiess.com

Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com

This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

Where you can find me:

Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg

https://untangledfaithpodcast.com

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Host/Creator: Amy Fritz