Pete Singer passed away on May 1, 2025.

He is missed by his many family and friends.

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Pete Singer, executive director of GRACE, shares about grooming, hidden trauma, being "overly" sensitive to abuse, and the importance of third-party investigations.

“Perpetrators put a lot of effort into being the kind of person who would never do that.”

"Being more sensitive may be the product of having more knowledge."

Pete Singer is the Executive Director of GRACE: Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment and an expert on third-party investigations, trauma, and trauma-informed practice.

GRACE: Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment is a nonprofit organization that specializes in safeguarding initiatives to guard against church abuse, sexual abuse in the church.

In this episode, you will learn the following:

1. What misconceptions about perpetrators of abuse do people have, and how can we ensure we are more informed?

2. How does trauma-informed practice apply in churches, and why is it important?

3. How can churches protect possible victims and be transparent and trustworthy in their response to allegations of misconduct?

Links:

https://netgrace.org

SAMHSA’s Six Principles of Trauma-Informed Care – Post-Secondary Peer Support Training Curriculum (opentextbc.ca)

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Dan and Summer Watt & Melissa Hogan joined me for episode 39: The Problem with Financial Peace University and Dave Ramsey's Financial Rhetoric.  ⁠ This conversation we had was made possible by the fact that those of us involved in this episode have spent the last several years processing together our experiences with the ups and downs of Financial Peace University and the rhetoric coming from the Ramsey Show.⁠ ⁠ While we all had different levels of understanding and adhering to the plan, each of us have found ourselves with serious questions. Some of these questions started before we broke ties with the organization and some of these realizations came later.⁠ ⁠ We don’t claim to be unbiased observers. We all have had very painful and disappointing experiences with Ramsey Solutions, but we don’t think that negates the very real questions we raise.⁠

Links:

D.L. Mayfield, The Myth of the American Dream

Dan Watt- Why Write About Lampo?

Dan Watt- Getting a Mortgage with no credit score

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Amy Fritz shares a brief reflection on what it's like to reckon with there being two versions of someone.

What would it cost to believe a person could be kind and generous sometimes and cruel and abusive other times?

Are you allowed to consider that, and what does it mean if you aren’t?

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Amy Fritz is joined by Melissa J. Hogan on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss the lawsuit involving Johnny Hunt and the SBC, addressing misconceptions and the importance of the judge's resolution.

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In this episode we:

• Explore the origins and developments of the Johnny Hunt lawsuit against the SBC.

• Unpack the significance of the Guidepost Report in uncovering abuse within the SBC.

• Clarify common misconceptions about defamation cases and the impact of public testimony.

• Reveal the judge's resolution and its implications for survivors and the SBC.

• Highlight the importance of understanding power dynamics and trauma-informed perspectives in cases of abuse.

Featured Guest

• Melissa J. Hogan https://melissajhogan.substack.com

Resources mentioned

• Dr. David Pooler Professor David Pooler: What is consent and power in clergy-laity relations? | Diana R. Garland School of Social Work | Baylor University

• Judge Rules Against Johnny Hunt in Defamation Suit over SBC Abuse Report - Christianity Today

If you liked this episode you'll like these:

83: Dave Ramsey’s Legal Nightmare: Time Share Exit Team Class-Action Lawsuit Deep Dive with Melissa Hogan

94: Lawsuit Update: Hypocrisy and Double Standards at Ramsey Solutions 

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Tiffany Yecke Brooks joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss her book Holy Ghosted and searching for a less anxious faith

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In this episode, we:

• Explore the concept of spiritual anxiety as a trauma response and its impact on individuals raised in legalistic religious environments.

• Discuss the influence of religious teachings and cultural pressures on Gen X and millennials’ spiritual experiences.

• Examine how control and manipulation manifest in religious communities through various rhetorical techniques.

• Highlight the historical presence of spiritual anxiety among church figures and the recognition of healthier ways to engage with faith.

• Reflect on the notion of God’s will as a relationship rather than a specific path, encouraging a focus on making thoughtful and intentional decisions.

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• Featured Guest

  • Tiffany Yecke Brooks

   

  Resources mentioned

  • Holy Ghosted https://amzn.to/4llmYPZ

  • https://tiffanyyeckebrooks.com
  • https://tiffanyyeckebrooks.substack.com

   

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Dr. Diane Langberg joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss her insights on abuse within the church and her latest book, "When the Church Harms God's People."

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In this episode, we:

• Explore the evolution of understanding abuse and trauma over the past five decades with Dr. Langberg.

• Discuss the misconceptions surrounding abuse and domestic violence within Christian communities.

• Examine the bravery required for victims to speak up and how church leaders should respond to disclosures of abuse.

• Address the importance of protecting individuals over preserving institutions or marriages.

• Consider what true repentance looks like for perpetrators and how mercy and love can be extended to them responsibly.

• Look at the challenges faced by survivors and the need for vigilance and wisdom in church settings.

• Highlight the essential role of education and training for leaders in recognizing and responding to abuse situations.

Featured Guest

• Dr. Diane Langberg

Resources mentioned

• When The Church Harms God's People https://amzn.to/4lbpqsn

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Katelyn Beaty joins Amy Fritz for a conversation about what Katelyn learned as she was writing her upcoming book, Celebrities for Jesus: How Personas, Platforms, and Profits Are Hurting the Church.

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In this episode we talk about:

• How did Katelyn decide who to reach out to for endorsements for a book like this?
• Proximity as an antidote to implosion.
• An update on my former pastor who plagiarized most of his sermons and personal stories.
• Ghostwriting
• Plagiarism
• What is the role of the consumer?

Featured Guest

• Katelyn Beaty https://katelybeaty.com

Resources mentioned

• Faithful Counseling https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

• Buy Katelyn's book: https://amzn.to/3AaCGaY

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Caleb Campbell joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss his journey from pastoring to becoming an author, and how to engage lovingly with Christian nationalists.

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In this episode we:

• Explore Caleb Campbell's background and transformation from a neo-Nazi skinhead to a church pastor.

• Discover the origins and motivations behind Caleb's book on Christian nationalism.

• Reflect on the challenges pastors face in navigating cultural and political divides, particularly within the past decade.

• Reframe the approach to Christian nationalism as a mission field rather than an enemy to combat.

• Consider practical steps for engaging in meaningful, compassionate conversations with those holding nationalist views.

Featured Guest

• Caleb Campbell https://www.disarmingleviathan.com

Resources mentioned

• Faithful Counseling https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled

• Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor https://amzn.to/4hEwCdi

• The Quiet Damage: QAnon and the Destruction of the American Family https://amzn.to/4hEwCdi

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Dr. Beth Allison Barr joins Amy Fritz to talk about the how women's roles in church ministry have changed throughout history.

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In this episode we:

• Dive into the origins and unexpected reactions to Barr's previous work, "The Making of Biblical Womanhood."

• Explore how Barr's experiences as both a historian and pastor's wife influenced her latest work.

• Unpack the historical context of ordination and the roles women played in early church leadership.

• Reveal how cultural forces and economics, rather than biblical mandates, have historically dictated views on women's roles.

• Discuss the Southern Baptist Convention's shifting stance on women's ordination in response to social and cultural changes.

• Shine a light on current issues within the SBC, including the connection between power dynamics and handling of abuse cases.

Featured Guest

• Dr. Beth Allison Barr https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/598817

Resources mentioned

• Faithful Counseling- get 10% off here: BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today

• Beth's book:  https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/598817

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Marty Duren joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to explore the intersections of faith, politics, and societal issues.

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In this episode Amy and Marty:

• Talk about Marty's journey away from the Moral Majority

• Discuss the impact of Christian Nationalism and how that's different than patriotism

• Consider how proximity changes how we understand different issues.
• Talk about why Marty hates the word "impactful"!

Featured Guest

• Mary Duren Kingdom in the Midst - On Earth as It is in Heaven

• Marty on Bluesky: Marty Duren (@martyduren.bsky.social) — Bluesky
• Marty on Facebook: Facebook

Resources mentioned

• Faithful Counseling- get 10% off here: BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today

• Marty's Book, The Disparate Ones https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-disparate-ones-essays-on-being-in-the-world-but-not-of-the-world/ae8b8e3c312ea6ff?ean=9781736282182&next=t&next=t

• Blood Brothers https://amzn.to/41qTiYq

• The Hundred Years' War on Palestine https://amzn.to/4i3G9fa

• Whose Promised Land  https://amzn.to/43lCULB
• A Stranger In the Land https://amzn.to/43lCULB

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