Latter-day Faith

165: Wrestling with Grooming and Polygamy, Part 1


Listen Later

Note: This two-part episode (Episode 166 is Part 2) is a departure from the usual focus of Latter-day Faith, which emphasizes teaching about and encouraging healthy faith development through introducing listeners to wise and powerful teachers in this area as well as to spiritual practices that can help us face our struggles with faith and church, families, communities, and with the world. In this podcast episode, Latter-day Faith host Dan Wotherspoon and his guest, Annika Rau, seek the same goals but take us into a dark area that will force us to wrestle with our ideas about God and prophets, presented in the context of "sexual grooming" and its relationship to the establishment of polygamy early in the history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Please take care of yourselves. This podcast might not be a safe listen for you, and if you determine that to be the case, do not listen! If you do choose to listen, please stop whenever you might need to. Be kind to yourself. Breathe deeply. Practice self-care at every moment. Bless you.

______

Sexual grooming is the use of various techniques that allow someone to isolate a child or another person for the purpose of gaining trust so the groomer can initiate sexual contact with them and to then instruct the victim to keep their sexual relationship a secret. Sexual grooming often involves family members, as well, with the groomer establishing a trusting relationship with them that makes it much less likely they will suspect sexual assault is occurring while also rendering them more likely to reject any story they might be told by the victim.

The specific focus of this conversation is the relationship between sexual grooming of both the women he married and, very often, their family members and the establishment of polygamy early in the history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It is vital for all of us to wrestle with the many difficulties involved in hurtful practices instituted and practiced by Joseph Smith, Jr., whom Latter-day Saints consider a prophet of God. We must also wrestle about what, if anything, did God have to do with this practice and the grooming of children/young women that was essential if it were to take hold.

Religious and other charismatic leaders within other traditions as well as in politics have also used grooming techniques to further the fulfillment of their sexual desires. Grooming is an absolute evil and it is something we must learn to recognize should someone try to groom us or anyone we love or have direct concern for. Thus, a focus early in this episode is on grooming techniques themselves before turning to the grooming/polygamy question.

How might we be able to view Joseph Smith as both a prophet and sexual abuser? Can we? Must we "cancel" him because of this fact of his life history so we can completely ignore every other one of his qualities and positive contributions to many lives, and, as a by-product, the rest of the world? Do we need to wrestle with our conception of God and God's character as most of us have at one time, or even now, taken it a face value that God might require sexual conquest of this type?

This episode seeks to inform about grooming and the techniques Joseph and other early church leaders used in helping Joseph convince four of his youngest brides(under the age of 20) to "consent" to this practice, including sexual contact. It does not seek to influence anyone that such conduct is incompatible with claims to be a "prophet" (in whatever sense we might have seen him). It does seek to convince that God had nothing whatsoever to do with polygamy and the grooming it required but everything to do with offering love, comfort, hope, optimism, insight and every other grace to the children and women who found themselves in unwanted relationships. May our struggles with these things bring us into deeper relationship with God/the Universe/Love even if it means we must face very dark and sad facts.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Latter-day FaithBy Dan Wotherspoon

  • 4.7
  • 4.7
  • 4.7
  • 4.7
  • 4.7

4.7

128 ratings


More shows like Latter-day Faith

View all
RadioWest by KUER

RadioWest

784 Listeners

Mormon Discussions Podcasts – Full Lineup by Bill Reel

Mormon Discussions Podcasts – Full Lineup

631 Listeners

Maxwell Institute Podcast by Maxwell Institute Podcast

Maxwell Institute Podcast

815 Listeners

Leading Saints Podcast by Leading Saints

Leading Saints Podcast

1,234 Listeners

Mormon Land by The Salt Lake Tribune

Mormon Land

331 Listeners

Faith Matters by Faith Matters Foundation

Faith Matters

1,768 Listeners

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler by Richard Ostler

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

856 Listeners

Radio Free Mormon by Mormon Discussion Inc

Radio Free Mormon

1,322 Listeners

Conversations with Dr. Jennifer by Dr. Jennifer Finlayson-Fife

Conversations with Dr. Jennifer

1,066 Listeners

All Out in the Open by All Out in the Open, Questions from the Closet

All Out in the Open

1,201 Listeners

At Last She Said It by Cynthia Winward, Susan Hinckley

At Last She Said It

1,049 Listeners

Breaking Down Patriarchy by Amy McPhie Allebest

Breaking Down Patriarchy

608 Listeners

Come Back Podcast by Ashly Stone

Come Back Podcast

1,584 Listeners

Latter Day Struggles by Valerie Hamaker

Latter Day Struggles

839 Listeners

Mormon.ish by Rebecca Bibliotheca and Landon Brophy

Mormon.ish

177 Listeners