In this episode of The 10 Ninety Podcast, Mason travels to Australia to sit down with his friend Craig Lithgow for a raw, honest conversation about grief, terror, and learning how to live after unthinkable loss. Craig shares the story of surviving the car accident that killed his partner and her two children, and what it's been like to carry that pain for nearly three decades.

Mason and Craig talk about what happens after the casseroles stop coming—the loneliness, the anger, the "programming" that tells you to toughen up and move on, and how burying feelings only makes things worse. They explore the difference between trying to feel better and actually getting better at feeling, the role of the body in grief (fitness, breath, meditation), and what real friendship and presence can do that no diagnosis or label ever will.

This conversation is about finding people who can sit in the dark with you, learning to complete the experiences that broke you, and slowly building a life that still has love, meaning, and connection in it.