In this episode, I chat with Michael Back who runs an amazing business called Human to Human, where he helps people, mainly businesses engage more with the people in their audience, but we draw on the lessons that he learned from helping a lot of people.

He worked with a lot of companies in financial services and financial advisors. So he sees a lot of people that help other people with their money. And we talk a lot about how people can engage more in their money to ultimately set themselves up, to get better results when they do stuff with their money, whether they, whether they're planning, whether they are actually using financial advice or making investments.

Then, we change it up and talk a little bit about Michael's money journey, how he got aligned on the same page with his partner and some of the lessons that he learned.

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