Lauren and Chan sit down with Taylor Swift expert and listener favorite, Joe Peacock, to deep dive the 11th studio by their blonde redeemer, Taylor Allison Swift. The trio discuss the journeys each has been on contending with the unexpected sonic experience of TTPD. Listen along as Lauren, Chan, and Joe get into the Matty Healy, Joe Alwyn, and Kim Kardashian of it all as they wade through the often stormy waters on Taylor’s tortured seas. 

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