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In this client spotlight episode, Chanie Wilschanski sits down with longtime coaching client Niki Van Cleave, owner of Butterfly Bunch in Metro Detroit, to explore what it means to lead a school with sustainable systems, real accountability, and operational clarity—especially during seasons of personal and professional upheaval.
Niki’s leadership journey spans two centers, a season of grief, increased operational pressure, and the bold decision to consolidate into one location with strategy and purpose. The turning point? She stopped defaulting to survival mode and started anchoring into intentional leadership. With the support of the Five Gears Diagnostic and the Money Leaks Assessment, Niki clarified her school operations, strengthened her team culture, and created rhythms that hold—even in chaotic seasons.
What You’ll Learn
Key Insights
Try This Instead: 3 Tools to Regain Operational Control
Memorable Quotes
“Different is scary—but different is good.” – Niki Van Cleave
“You don’t need another tactic—you need a system that aligns with your values.” – Chanie Wilschanski
“Anchored leaders build cultures that hold—even when they don’t.” – Chanie Wilschanski
Why This Matters for School Leaders
Resources for School Leaders
By Chanie Wilschanski4.9
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In this client spotlight episode, Chanie Wilschanski sits down with longtime coaching client Niki Van Cleave, owner of Butterfly Bunch in Metro Detroit, to explore what it means to lead a school with sustainable systems, real accountability, and operational clarity—especially during seasons of personal and professional upheaval.
Niki’s leadership journey spans two centers, a season of grief, increased operational pressure, and the bold decision to consolidate into one location with strategy and purpose. The turning point? She stopped defaulting to survival mode and started anchoring into intentional leadership. With the support of the Five Gears Diagnostic and the Money Leaks Assessment, Niki clarified her school operations, strengthened her team culture, and created rhythms that hold—even in chaotic seasons.
What You’ll Learn
Key Insights
Try This Instead: 3 Tools to Regain Operational Control
Memorable Quotes
“Different is scary—but different is good.” – Niki Van Cleave
“You don’t need another tactic—you need a system that aligns with your values.” – Chanie Wilschanski
“Anchored leaders build cultures that hold—even when they don’t.” – Chanie Wilschanski
Why This Matters for School Leaders
Resources for School Leaders

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