My guest today, once again is me.

A few weeks ago legendary human, documentary maker, story teller, adventurer and all-around super-human Todd Sampson came onto my show and when he did, Todd insisted that one day he interview me.

Part one was last week, and if you’ve not listened to that, please go back and check it out, because it will make this conversation have much more context.

In this second half of the conversation with Todd, we get into the darkest of the darkness. We discuss the stuff that I cover in the book - including alcoholism, psychosis, and suicidal ideation.

If you or someone you know is struggling please call lifeline 13 11 14.

It’s of course an incredible honour to have Todd do this - he’s a very smart, very busy man, and he took nearly three hours out of his day to come to our kitchen and interview me.

It ended up with us both in tears and there’s a point at the end when Audrey even joins in, and thanks to your requests, I’m going to get her on as a guest in coming weeks so we can talk about what she does to get through life living with a guy like me who’s capable of incredible intensity from time to time.

If you like what you hear - please reach out to @ToddSampsonOZ on twitter and let him know.

If you like it a whole lot - come see the live show on August 30th which is basically this, but with a songs. osher.is/live the link is in the show notes on your podcast app.

If you really like what you hear - buy the book.

The link is live now at oshergunsberg.com or in my instagram bio.

Ok are you ready?

Come back to my kitchen table in Bronte for a nice shot of espresso and a chat with the wonderful man that is Todd Sampson.

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