Today on the Betches Sup podcast, Amanda and Bryan debrief from a second weekend of protests across the nation, and run through how policymakers are meeting demonstrators’ demands. They explain how Minneapolis hopes to “dismantle” its police department, actions Congress is taking, and run through the various ways activists refer to police reform. What does it mean to “defund” vs “abolish” the police? Finally, they explain why evidence-based approaches to reducing law enforcement presence in communities aren’t nearly as radical as they sound.

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