After a workshop Jen ran with leaders and coaches, she and Pete thrash about two ideas: A great audition is nothing more than smoke and mirrors, and keep it actionable.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• What is the difference between an audition and acting, or an interview and the job?
• How might we push aside theory in favor of action?
• What are the other eight ideas that Jen brought up in her workshop? And will they be future episodes?

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