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Episode 345: Hidden Forces That Shape (and can Sabotage) Your Leadership, and how to tame them
Guest: Dr. Jaime Goff
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC
Do you ever find yourself micromanaging, replaying conversations, or avoiding asking for help even when you’re overwhelmed? You’re not alone, and nothing is “wrong” with you.
In this episode, Laura Cox Kaplan sits down with executive coach and author Dr. Jaime Goff, whose new book The Secure Leader reveals how early emotional patterns and attachment styles shape how we show up at work. If you’ve ever felt stuck, “off,” or unsure why your leadership isn’t landing the way you want, this conversation offers a clearer roadmap and practical tools to move toward grounded, confident, secure leadership.
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST
Dr. Jaime Goff is the founder of The Empathetic Leader and author of The Secure Leader. With roots in couple and family therapy and years of experience as an executive coach, Jaime brings a rare blend of psychology and leadership strategy. She helps leaders understand how early relational patterns influence their management style—and how to update those patterns to build healthier, more trust-filled organizations.
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE
THE BACKBONE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP STORY: How early relationships shape your leadership patterns, and why understanding your backstory matters.
ATTACHMENT-INSPIRED LEADERSHIP STYLES: Jaime explains the difference between Secure leaders, Insecure-anxious leaders, and Insecure-avoidant leaders, and why “secure” is a direction, not a box.
HOW TO SPOT YOUR OWN PATTERNS: and how those triggers, stress responses, and habits can hold you back even when some of those behaviors might have worked previously.
GENDER, PERFECTIONISM & CONTROL: A candid look at why many women struggle with asking for help, relinquishing control, and rewriting perfectionist tendencies.
TOOLS FOR SELF-REGULATION: Jaime shares some practical, simple strategies, including: Noticing emotional cues, “Security priming” (like hand-on-heart grounding),
Pausing, or taking a break when things escalate
Whether you’re leading a team, managing up, or simply trying to understand yourself better, this episode offers a powerful lens to elevate your influence and strengthen your leadership.
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SHOW NOTES
Episode 345: Hidden Forces That Shape (and can Sabotage) Your Leadership, and how to tame them
Guest: Dr. Jaime Goff
THIS WEEK’S TOPIC
Do you ever find yourself micromanaging, replaying conversations, or avoiding asking for help even when you’re overwhelmed? You’re not alone, and nothing is “wrong” with you.
In this episode, Laura Cox Kaplan sits down with executive coach and author Dr. Jaime Goff, whose new book The Secure Leader reveals how early emotional patterns and attachment styles shape how we show up at work. If you’ve ever felt stuck, “off,” or unsure why your leadership isn’t landing the way you want, this conversation offers a clearer roadmap and practical tools to move toward grounded, confident, secure leadership.
ABOUT THIS WEEK’S GUEST
Dr. Jaime Goff is the founder of The Empathetic Leader and author of The Secure Leader. With roots in couple and family therapy and years of experience as an executive coach, Jaime brings a rare blend of psychology and leadership strategy. She helps leaders understand how early relational patterns influence their management style—and how to update those patterns to build healthier, more trust-filled organizations.
WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE
THE BACKBONE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP STORY: How early relationships shape your leadership patterns, and why understanding your backstory matters.
ATTACHMENT-INSPIRED LEADERSHIP STYLES: Jaime explains the difference between Secure leaders, Insecure-anxious leaders, and Insecure-avoidant leaders, and why “secure” is a direction, not a box.
HOW TO SPOT YOUR OWN PATTERNS: and how those triggers, stress responses, and habits can hold you back even when some of those behaviors might have worked previously.
GENDER, PERFECTIONISM & CONTROL: A candid look at why many women struggle with asking for help, relinquishing control, and rewriting perfectionist tendencies.
TOOLS FOR SELF-REGULATION: Jaime shares some practical, simple strategies, including: Noticing emotional cues, “Security priming” (like hand-on-heart grounding),
Pausing, or taking a break when things escalate
Whether you’re leading a team, managing up, or simply trying to understand yourself better, this episode offers a powerful lens to elevate your influence and strengthen your leadership.
MORE SPECIAL OFFERS FOR SHE SAID/SHE SAID PODCAST LISTENERS:
Use the link below to shop all of our special holiday offers and receive exclusive She Said listener discounts:
Get them at: https://MyDeals.Page/1w7d
Be sure to use our Promo Code: SHESAID at checkout
FEEDBACK & COMMUNITY:
Which part of this episode resonated with you most? What’s your biggest nutrition, wellness, or reinvention challenge right now? We’d love to hear! Contact us using the links below.
LOOKING FOR MORE SHE SAID/SHE SAID? You’ll find all our episodes & lots more content: shesaidshesaidpodcast.com
LET’S CONNECT!
PLEASE RATE AND REVIEW SHE SAID/SHE SAID PODCAST
Love the show? Please consider leaving a review on Spotify, iTunes, GooglePlay, YouTube, or wherever you listen. Your feedback helps shape the podcast and brings more amazing content your way!
Note: She Said/She Said Podcast is a weekly production of She Said/She Said Media.

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