This week, Jen shares an aha moment with Pete that she learned during the intensive process of caramelizing onions.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• Why might efficiency not always be the best route to an end goal?
• What can we learn by practicing patience, and not rushing?
• What are some tactics for continuing with a project when it seems uncertain?

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