Gert Jonkers is the editor of Fantastic Man, and co-founder of The Gentlewoman, and Butt. We chat about hitting the premiere for FX’s The Bear, new Beyoncë dropped, pagan rituals in The Netherlands, Americans are loud, how we all think an EIC should be dressing, in defense of tank tops, its okay that LA is so casual, the lifespan of a magazine cover, not diluting the brand, his journalistic rules for interviewing someone, we’re fine with media training as long as its great, sync talk but for magazines, Gert loves politics but doesn’t watch tv shows, and podcasting, just like magazine making, looks a lot easier than it is.

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