Sami and Amanda are joined by Sara Azari, criminal defense attorney and author of “Unprecedented: A Simple Guide To The Crimes Of The Trump Campaign And Presidency.” Azari explains what the next few years might look like for Trump now that he’s lost the power of the presidency. Will he actually be held accountable for his crimes, and how soon will it happen? What’s Trump’s most likely route to prison? She explains why Trump actually can’t pardon himself but has a terrifying loophole that involves making Pence president. Finally, she explains why the Mueller investigation in particular hit Trump where it hurts and how it might impact his future political career.

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