In this episode join Evoke coach Mark Postle for a chat with rock climber and alpinist, Matt Segal. Matt has had a great year of climbing in 2023 including a free ascent of Cowboy Direct (Grade VII, 5.13a) on the Trango Tower in Pakistan, and an ascent of Kryptonite (5.14d) near his home in Colorado. Join Mark and Matt as they discuss the arc of Matt's development as a climber, and how he structured his training to attain these two huge goals.