In this episode, we set out to talk about ultra running… and immediately don’t.

Instead, we get into where we’ve been mentally lately—which is somewhere between “functioning adult” and “staring into the void but still mowing the yard.” Turns out you can have everything technically fine and still feel completely off. Love that for us.

We also discover that a broken chainsaw is basically the perfect metaphor for training. It worked great… until it absolutely didn’t. And that’s kind of how we approach running too—ignore the small problems, hope for the best, and then act surprised when everything falls apart on race day.

We talk about the classic ultrarunner mistakes: repeating the same bad training, pretending nutrition doesn’t matter, and blaming the race instead of admitting we might be the problem. (We said might. Relax.)

Somewhere in there, we also spiral into the mental side of things—how easy it is to get stuck in your own head, convince yourself you’re the only one suffering, and forget that literally everyone else is also tired, hot, and questioning their life choices.