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6 Stages of Grooming Adults with guest Barrett Pall


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Grooming is the process during which a child sexual offender draws a child in by gaining his or her trust in order to sexually abuse the child and maintain secrecy. The offender may also groom the parents by persuading them of his or her trustworthiness with children.

In this episode, Dr. Kate talks with Barret Pall a former model, now a life coach, who has decided to talk about his experiences of being sexually abused, and show that this happens to people of all genders. 


Dr. Kate shines a light on the process of grooming so people can be aware of the steps predators take once designating a victim and the psychological make up of those predators, as well as the psychological effects on the victim, especially when this happens at a young age. 


Former model Barrett Pall began his fashion career while studying as an undergraduate at New York University.


Pall, now 33, is opening up about the alleged sexual abuse he received from photographers behind the scenes.


Pall, as many do, thought the fashion industry would be glamorous. But quickly found out that isn’t what it is. On his very first photo shoot, he was sexually assaulted by the photographer. And on a trip to Los Angeles, he was in an uncomfortable situation with his “agent.”


He says there is no one specific way that someone is sexually assaulted or abused,” “I personally was not penetrated in any way, but I was sexually abused, and I say that wholeheartedly, knowing full stop that is what happened to me. There was no consenting, there was no asking, there was no ‘Are you OK with this?’”


Men also suffer from unwanted sexual advances, with 1 in 6 males reporting to have been sexually abused or assaulted.


 “There is something that’s taken from you, and as more people share their stories that are similar to mine, you get to take back a part of your narrative, which is taking back some of your power,” he told Yahoo.


The message he wants to send out to other men, regardless of your sexuality, is that consent is something that we also get to have for us and our sex lives. It’s an enthusiastic ‘yes’ — or it’s not a ‘yes’ at all.”


Healing can take a lifetime, and for Pall, that journey includes helping others to heal. For the last eight years, he’s been working as a life coach focused on helping his clients unlock their potential.


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