This week, I'm joined by Lise and Krystle from Porteavie.com for a grown up conversation about things to put on, things to take off, things to rub on you, and perhaps things to put inside of you - all in the name of pleasure. So - this is a grown up talk. If this kind of thing irks you - that's ok, there's 61 other eps to listen to. I won't be upset if you skip this one. I wanted to share this conversation with you because we talk about a shift in acceptance of alternate expressions of sexuality, They're an early stage start-up, and their learnings about what it takes to start a business in this modern digital era are fascinating. So it's a conversation that's equal parts erotic and entrepreneurial. Enjoy!

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