Listen to what happens when Jon and Becca sit down to discuss ultrarunning and immediately get distracted by beavers, groundhogs, AI, gender politics, bad race math, and the highly sensitive issue of proper Fresca placement in the fridge. Somewhere in there, they also share legitimately useful advice on Mid-State training, crewing, downhill running, and backyard ultra standards. A real grab bag of trail wisdom and lovingly aired grievances.