Sami is joined by Andrea Chalupa, co-host of the podcast Gaslit Nation and an expert on Russia and Ukraine. They discuss why Putin is so obsessed with Ukraine, his aspirations beyond the neighboring country, and what predictions we can make about his behavior moving forward. How serious is a nuclear threat? They also discuss Andrea’s film “Mr. Jones,” which tells the story of Stalin’s famine in Ukraine.Links referenced in the episode:

Razom for Ukraine: https://razomforukraine.org/

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