On this episode of How'd She Do That? host Emily Landers welcomes Phoebe and Roxy onto the podcast!

After Phoebe and Roxy embarked on their separate journeys through college and their first jobs post-graduation their paths crossed one day when Phoebe reached out and connected to Roxy through Instagram. With a shared love of graphic design and desire to pursue a creative life, they founded PANDR Design Co.

PANDR Design Co. is a creative design agency that specializes in custom art installations.  Together they have created over 225 murals across the US, including a few adventures that have taken them overseas as well!

In this episode, Phoebe and Roxy share valuable advice on running your own business, trusting your gut when those red flags appear, and not letting fear stop you. They also talk about how they took a step back during the pandemic to re-evaluate their thoughts on the hustle culture and how they now incorporate what they need for self-care into their workdays.