Our friend Tom, who just released his critically acclaimed new record, I Am Towards You, returns to chat with Chris and Jason about Gambino's retirement, a dinner party in Harlem, Online Ceramics is going Call Her Daddy mode, local Highland Park dining, macro bowls, Tom's thoughts on "the ear," anybody who wants to do anything can just do it, Red Bull tour support, money earning labor, the Cayman Islands podcast charts, a Transylvanian train ride, and his thoughts on Bronny and The WNBA.

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