Ryan Mac is a tech reporter at The New York Times. His new book, Character Limit: How Elon Musk Destroyed Twitter, is out now. We chat about Drake vs. UMG, a dinner at Stissing House, being from Orange County, Honda Accords, we've both interviewed hip hop's Riff Raff, documenting billionaires for Forbes, Threads, Bluesky, Linkedin, BeReal, and Facebook, X Merch, what Elon's endgame is with Trump, why he won't leave Mar-A-Lago, people vote with their feet, hitting vegas with Calvin Harris, the future of Las Vegas, and how much money it would take for Ryan to join Elon's cabinet.

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