Doctors losing their licenses. Friends divorcing friends. Whiffs of mass psychosis. And a betrayal of bioethics…What could we learn from the COVID moment? I couldn’t think of a better person to ask than my friend Charles Eisenstein. His newest book, The Coronation, is a collection of essays that he wrote during the last two years. And it’s a must have for anybody who wants to go deep…How do we find courage in these times? What would it look like if we listened more and spoke less? Have Charles and I been wrong about this all along? What might we learn from past witch hunts to guide the current one? How do we untangle our culture’s death phobia?



[00:10:00] - Charles lost friends during COVID due to essays

[00:15:45] - Pandemic or mass “hysteria"

[00:20:15] - Conspiracies against “the weird kid in school” and the perversion of bioethics

[00:26:00] - More doctors are doubtful about the COVID response  than meets the eye

[00:33:00] - Taboos and evil spirits

[00:37:00] - The best way not to be burned during a witch hunt is to accuse your neighbor of witchcraft

[00:40:15] - Courage comes with stones; acquiescence with “safety”

[00:45:00] - Charles’ essays have been prescient re: COVID

[00:49:30] - What if the only way to save your life was for everyone on earth to isolate and no longer have contact with their loved ones?

[00:57:00] - Maybe COVID was an opportunity to build something better?

[01:03:45] - Direct experience and gaslighting

[01:10:00] - The tentacles of death phobia

[01:13:00] - Germ and terrain theories

[01:20:00] - We always have the choice of sovereignty

[01:35:00] - How can we engage in hard conversations instead of locking horns? “What is it like to be you?”



Charles' books, including his most recent title "The Coronation: Essays From the COVID Moment"

U.S. Public Health Agencies Aren't ‘Following the Science,’ Officials Say

Episode 72 of The Holistic OBGYN Podcast: "A Brief-ish History of Western Medicine, Witches, and Women Healers"

My first interview with Charles

The Psychology of Totalitarianism, by Mattias Desmet

Charles' interview with C.J. Hopkins

Man's Search for Meaning, by Viktor Frankl



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