In anticipation of the launch of Michael’s new book, we’re reaching into the vaults to pull the best episodes for you. Want to preorder? Go to HowToBegin.com

This won’t, unfortunately, be news to you: Each year, we consume the resources of 1.6 planet earths. We’re diminishing the environment, exhausting biological capital … and heading towards, well, who really knows... Is there hope? Yes. Is it up to you? Yes, at least partially. And where do we begin? By understanding what it takes to be a good ancestor. Practical philosopher, Roman Krznaric, joins Michael Bungay Stanier for a conversation about preserving our planet by adopting a long-term way of thinking that will not only benefit us but succeeding generations as well. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/ 

Roman reads pages from John McPhee’s book ‘Basin and Range.’ [reading begins at 7:25]        

Hear Michael and Roman talk about: 

Channeling your anger into constructive action. [12:31] | Being a ‘good ancestor.’ [15:06] | “We can change our habits,” Roman says. [22:13] | “Nothing in nature grows forever.” [25:30] | Activists’ responses to Roman’s book and the concept of long-term thinking. [26:52] | “Take care of the place that will take care of our offspring.” [31:03]