Join us for a wonderfully chaotic session with Jen Hogan, the celebrated journalist from the

Irish Times and the brilliant mind behind the Conversations with Parents podcast. We kick things off with some hearty laughs and a touch of nostalgia, reminiscing about amusing 80s van rides and the delightful chaos of family life. Jen shares her deep insights on parenting. Her tales of managing a bustling household are both heartwarming and hilariously relatable, offering a

glimpse into the joyous intricacies of family dynamics.

As we wander through the maze of large family life, we explore how the chaos of a bustling household can be oddly addictive. Personal anecdotes reveal the rollercoaster of emotions tied to being an eldest sibling and the unique bond it creates with younger ones. Jen and I ponder on the fascinating concept of "organized chaos," where joy and chaos intertwine to create a deeply satisfying experience. This episode is a tribute to the beautifully messy tapestry of family life, filled with laughter, responsibility, and the love that binds it all together.

We tackle the fears and misconceptions surrounding childbirth, emphasizing the importance of

support and understanding for all mothers. Through shared stories, we highlight the spectrum of birthing experiences and acknowledge the continuous journey of learning and growth that parenting entails.

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