In this deeply reflective conversation, Michael Jones joins me for a powerful exploration of risk, money, drive, and perception. It began as a question about entrepreneurial risk tolerance, but quickly evolved into something much more profound.

We explored the illusion of certainty, the myth of control, and how even the belief “I should have more money” can quietly sabotage focus, creativity, and peace. I guided Michael through Byron Katie’s framework called The Work, using his relationship with money as a powerful real-time example. What emerged was a radical reframing: the realization that we always have exactly the amount we should have, because it is what is.

We unpacked how clinging to expectations about income, progress, or the “right” business strategy can trap us in stress loops, leading to action that’s busy but unfocused. And we talked about how true sustainability and impact come not from reacting to fear or lack, but from moving with clarity and internal alignment.

This episode is for anyone who has ever second-guessed themselves, clung to a thought that brought suffering, or wondered whether they were “falling behind.” If you've wrestled with the illusion that there’s only one “right” path, or that your current state isn’t good enough, this is your reminder to love what is… and create from there.