David Gelb is the director and creator of Chef's Table and Jiro Dreams of Sushi. We chat with him about reaching peak Goggins, a bad tipper, Lorde In The Park, how to get kicked out of a sushi restaurant, the most expensive restaurant in the world, the best way to eat horse, how much to hit with Alcaraz for an hour, Apple's The Studio and the death of satire, we debate the concept of telling a story with food, Jiro post fame, his dad has more Emmys than he does, temple food for white people, zen gardens and drone footage, and we force him to take us to Chez Pannise.

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