Pete and Jen discuss how the path to optimism is through realism, and urge listeners to accept the new normal and adapt their businesses to address new problems. 

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

• How might one adapt their business to adjust to the new normal?
• What are the traps in moving an in-person business online?
• Where is a good place to start, in moving to a new online platform/system?
• What are some of the different possibilities opened up by this new normal?

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