Max Jolliffe is an ultra-marathon trail runner from Orange County, CA. His new documentary, King of Moab, is available now on YouTube. We chat about the launch of Smartless Mobil, Apple's Liquid Glass, VF's new editor, his girlfriend teaches a 5:30 Barry's class, how to run a marathon's distance daily with a full-time job, his resting heart rate, his sobriety to stairclimber plan, the Normatec hip attachment, wired headphones, what exactly goes in to running a 240 mile race, fellas is it gay to run with poles, his Del Taco order, carbo loading, hydrofoiling, and his top 5 perscription pills of all time.

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