This week, the Pope Leo vs. Trump news has been insane. How did this happen in an administration that claims to be deeply Christian and Catholic? We discuss the historical precedent of political popes, the wild escalation of conflict that has happened, and where the theology simply doesn't make sense.

Show Notes: - Hungarian Election: https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/12/world/live-news/hungary-election-orban-magyar - Cardinals Speak Out: https://www.americamagazine.org/news/2026/04/13/us-cardinals-60-minutes-trump/ - Our "Biblical vs. Christian" episode: https://youtu.be/MqJgG5JXDiM - Belle Hooks Communion: https://bookshop.org/p/books/communion-the-female-search-for-love-bell-hooks/f218116ab5383b77?ean=9780060938291&next=t - Belle Hooks "Appalachian Elegy": https://bookshop.org/p/books/appalachian-elegy-poetry-and-place-bell-hooks/9bfc4384a9d46ab6?ean=9780813136691&next=t - Pope's Plane: https://cruxnow.com/church/2015/09/fun-facts-and-more-about-life-aboard-the-papal-plane

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