Sami and Alise are back on day 20 of the government shut down to talk about where we are in negotiations (nowhere) and Trump's first Oval Office address, as well as the response from Chuck and Nancy. They also talk about new investigations into R. Kelly and the revelation that Paul Manafort was sharing polling data with a Russian oligarch. We also announce our new campaign to build a moat at the souther border, which you can find at betches.co/moat

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