We speak with Jacob Bannon, singer of Converge, a hardcore band that Chris and Jason have been fans of for years. Their new record, Love Is Not Enough, is out this week. We disagree about just about everything for the first 30 minutes, and then chat about The New Yorker's Joe Rogan piece, Kid Rock's Super Bowl performance, fanaticism and music streaming, Bandcamp percentages, 90s web design, Manscaped ads, how to fit four bands on one tour bus, sleeping in a Uhaul and eating canned corn for a month and the mentality that gives you later in life, and how he manages his physical media.

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