We’re shaking things up again this week and having Michael back on for round two! On this week's episode, just Chris and Michael sit down to discuss how to make it through the complex and uncomfortable changes that can come from growth and personnel changes.

Listen to this week's podcast to hear their thoughts on how to be resilient, and the importance of “yes, and”ing hard situations!

Listen to the full episode to hear their thoughts!

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