Jay S. from Redondo Beach, CA speaking at the "Living Fearlessly Men's retreat" in Estes Park, CO - April 18th 2008

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In Part 2 of this men's retreat, Jay dives deeper into the emotional and spiritual challenges of sobriety, focusing on topics like chronic pain, depression, and the stigma surrounding medication in Alcoholics Anonymous. Through his wife's powerful writings and personal experiences, he explores the complexities of suffering and the importance of responding with love, kindness, and patience. Jay also addresses the role of Al-Anon and other 12-step fellowships in supporting not just alcoholics but those struggling with other compulsions, emphasizing that true recovery is about spiritual growth and self-awareness. He discusses the importance of establishing a spiritual practice within the home, sharing how he and his wife meditate together to create a foundation of peace and connection. As always, Jay delivers his message with humor, humility, and wisdom, reminding the men at the retreat that true transformation happens through community, faith, and consistent action.