
Sign up to save your podcasts
Or


Welcome to the ABA Business Leaders News, the go-to show for aspiring and current ABA practice owners who want to keep up to date with the latest happenings in the world of ABA.
Every week, your hosts April and Stephen Smith bring you actionable insights, news, and real-world advice to help you navigate the challenges and celebrate the wins of starting and running your own ABA practice.
🗓️ Live Every Monday: We stream this podcast live in our exclusive Facebook group, where members can interact, ask questions, and share their own experiences. 🎧 New Episode Every Tuesday: We release the recorded episode on all major podcast platforms so you can catch up anytime.
What to Expect Each Week:
✅ The latest news and real-time updates impacting ABA practice owners—legislation, funding, best practices, and trends ✅ Tips, resources, and real-world guidance on launching, managing, and scaling your practice ✅ Stories and experiences from our own journey, and from other professionals in the field ✅ Interactive Q&A from our Facebook group members
Whether you’re dreaming of starting your own practice, just getting off the ground, or looking to take your ABA business to the next level, April and Stephen are here to help you every step of the way.
👉 Join the Conversation: Be part of our supportive Facebook community and get involved in the live episodes. Your questions, comments, and stories are what make this podcast thrive!
____________________________________________________________________________________
If you’re ready to build a strong foundation for your ABA practice, don’t miss my ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs here: 👉 https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs It’s a great way to stay ahead with practical insights.
Wondering how to start an ABA business or how to know your ABA business is ready to scale? Check out my free ABA Business Readiness Assessment: 👉 https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment
And if you’re looking for straightforward ABA billing tips to keep your cash flow healthy, grab my quick guide here: 👉 https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips
Let’s get your business on track—one step at a time.
Building ABA Teams That Thrive (Part 2): Managing ABA Business Caseloads
In this follow-up episode, April and Stephen sit down once again with Maria and Caitlyn from ABYay! to continue the conversation on what it takes to lead, support, and grow successful ABA teams.
This time, they explore the nitty-gritty of treatment plans, report writing, and building sustainable caseloads for BCBAs and supervisors. From clear documentation to curiosity-led feedback, Maria and Caitlyn offer a behind-the-scenes look at the systems and mindset that keep their staff supported and clients progressing.
🔍 Inside the Episode:
📝 Templates are training tools: Caitlyn shares how structured report templates and rubrics help RBTs and new staff understand treatment plans—without overcomplicating them.
🔁 Frequent check-ins matter: Supervisors often feel overwhelmed at first. Caitlyn and Maria emphasize that regular touchpoints and open conversations about workload are key.
📋 Training that actually works: April and Stephen dig into how ABYay! makes sure technicians understand treatment plans before stepping into the field. Caitlyn explains their hands-on approach to onboarding and training—it’s all about readiness, not just compliance.
⚖️ What is a "manageable" caseload? Maria shares that the average BCBA caseload at ABYay! is six. Some carry more if they can handle it ethically, but the emphasis is always on feedback, reflection, and customization.
🧠 Building reflective supervisors: Supporting supervisors means more than just telling them what’s right or wrong. Maria talks about using curiosity and self-awareness as tools for long-term professional growth.
👥 One tech per full-time case: Caitlyn explains why ABYay! assigns a single technician to 35–40 hour cases. This consistency supports stronger relationships and better outcomes for kids—and it makes supervision smoother too.
💡 Bottom line: There’s no one-size-fits-all for caseloads or staffing. But the common thread? Intentionality. This episode is a must-listen for ABA leaders who want to build not just teams, but ecosystems of support.
💼 This Episode is Sponsored by MarginKeepers
Because managing people and your numbers shouldn't feel impossible.
📌 Free Resources from MarginKeepers:
📥 10 Essential Accounting Tips for Established ABA Owners → Email them with this subject line to get practical, jargon-free advice you’ll actually use.
📄 Tax Compliance Flyer → Download for free and stay ahead of issues that affect pay, compliance, and peace of mind.
📊 ABA Chart of Accounts → Request it via email to start tracking the right numbers in the right way.
https://3piesquared.com/ — MarginKeepers has built resources for practices like yours:
Welcome to the ABA Business Leaders News, the go-to show for aspiring and current ABA practice owners who want to keep up to date with the latest happenings in the world of ABA.
Every week, your hosts April and Stephen Smith bring you actionable insights, news, and real-world advice to help you navigate the challenges and celebrate the wins of starting and running your own ABA practice.
🗓️ Live Every Monday: We stream this podcast live in our exclusive Facebook group, where members can interact, ask questions, and share their own experiences. 🎧 New Episode Every Tuesday: We release the recorded episode on all major podcast platforms so you can catch up anytime.
What to Expect Each Week:
✅ The latest news and real-time updates impacting ABA practice owners—legislation, funding, best practices, and trends ✅ Tips, resources, and real-world guidance on launching, managing, and scaling your practice ✅ Stories and experiences from our own journey, and from other professionals in the field ✅ Interactive Q&A from our Facebook group members
Whether you’re dreaming of starting your own practice, just getting off the ground, or looking to take your ABA business to the next level, April and Stephen are here to help you every step of the way.
👉 Join the Conversation: Be part of our supportive Facebook community and get involved in the live episodes. Your questions, comments, and stories are what make this podcast thrive!
____________________________________________________________________________________
If you’re ready to build a strong foundation for your ABA practice, don’t miss my ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs here: 👉 https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs It’s a great way to stay ahead with practical insights.
Wondering how to start an ABA business or how to know your ABA business is ready to scale? Check out my free ABA Business Readiness Assessment: 👉 https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment
And if you’re looking for straightforward ABA billing tips to keep your cash flow healthy, grab my quick guide here: 👉 https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips
Let’s get your business on track—one step at a time.
Building ABA Teams That Thrive: Structure, Support & Culture!
Sponsored by MarginKeepers
In this two-part episode, April and Stephen sit down with Maria and Caitlyn—two key leaders at ABYay!—for a grounded, practical discussion on how to truly support the people working within your ABA business. From building trust through frequent check-ins to revamping training based on staff feedback, this conversation is a must-listen for anyone managing teams in behavior analysis.
Together, they share how ABYay! is doing things differently: fostering collaboration, empowering supervisors, and intentionally building a culture where everyone feels heard, connected, and supported.
🔍 Inside the Episode:
🗓 9:53 – “Little and often.” Why frequent check-ins with BCBAs and supervisors are better than the once-every-six-months approach
🏠 15:17 – In-home services challenges: when support falls through the cracks, learners suffer. April shares how this shows up in the field
🤝 18:35 – Caitlyn on creating a culture of connection through individual check-ins and bi-weekly supervisor meetings
🌍 19:33 – April shares why diversity of thought and background among BCBAs strengthens your problem-solving
🧘♀️ 23:58 – Maria’s people-first philosophy: why work-life balance and staff comfort build trust—and a stronger business
📚 30:54 – Caitlyn explains how ABYay! built training systems based on staff input, not just clinical norms
https://3piesquared.com/ MarginKeepers has built resources for practices like yours:
👉 Visit 3piesquared.com to request these free tools and start making finance one less thing to worry about.
🎧 Whether you're running a small team or a large organization, this episode will give you real, replicable strategies for building an ABA company that puts people first—and thrives because of it.
🎙 Would You Rather? Real ABA Leaders Tackle Tough Choices
In this fun but revealing episode of the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, April hosts a powerhouse panel of ABA business owners—Chris, Jennifer, Mallory, Robin, and Alecia—for a special “Would You Rather?” edition. The game might be light-hearted, but the insights are anything but. From delegation and burnout to payroll panic and exit strategies, this group doesn’t hold back.
With decades of combined experience and plenty of real talk, the panel shares the hard decisions ABA leaders face every day—and how to move through them with clarity, care, and courage.
🔍 Inside the Episode:
🤹 Robin reflects on trying to do it all: The trap of trying to juggle motherhood and business without support
📞 Chris offers practical advice: Why every ABA business should start with a virtual number (and never use your personal one!)
📈 Mallory and Chris weigh the risk: Fast growth vs. slow and steady—what’s sustainable when you’re managing waitlists and scaling staff?
💰 Mallory draws a line in the sand: Making payroll should always be your #1 priority
🔄 Jennifer chooses insurance fights over staff turnover: Why consistency matters more than convenience
🍼 Alecia and April talk legacy: Sell and sabbatical, or evolve and stay in the work? What does growth really look like for a founder?
😂 Chris jokes about the emotional rollercoaster of ownership: “Monday through Friday, I’m ready to sell. Saturday, I’m in love with my business again.”
💡 Whether you're building your team, growing your caseload, or just wondering if you're doing it right, this episode is packed with candid advice from people who’ve been in your shoes.
📌 Resources Mentioned:
✅ Silna Health – Never lose time to benefit checks again. Claim your extended free trial here: https://3piesquared.com/business-affiliate/silna
✅ ABA Business Readiness Assessment – See where your business stands: https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment
✅ Book a Consult with Stephen – Honest guidance from someone who gets it: https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page
🎧 Tune in and find comfort in the chaos—because you’re not doing this alone.
🎙 AI Meets ABA: The Future of Behavior Analysis with Adam Ventura
In this forward-thinking episode, April and Stephen sit down with Adam Ventura, to explore the rapidly evolving intersection between artificial intelligence and applied behavior analysis (ABA). Adam Ventura, MS, BCBA, is a leader in the integration of artificial intelligence and behavior science. He is the Founder and CEO of Intraverbal AI, a company dedicated to transforming applied behavior analysis (ABA) through AI-powered tools that support ethical decision-making, supervision, and clinical efficiency. From concerns about data security to philosophical shifts in how we define "expertise," this conversation is packed with thoughtful insight for anyone navigating the future of ABA.
Together, they dig into the risks, possibilities, and ethics of integrating AI into clinical workflows—and what this tech revolution could mean for RBTs, BCBAs, and most importantly, clients.
🔍 Inside the Episode: 🧠 Stephen voices concerns about over-reliance on AI: What happens to professional judgment when we let machines make decisions?
📚 Adam compares ABA to education: We’re moving from knowing the right answers to learning how to ask the right questions.
🔐 A frank discussion on HIPAA, data privacy, and why clinicians need safe AI systems
👏 April praises the field: ABA leaders are having grown-up conversations about AI—and it’s brilliant to see.
🚫 Adam calls out the negative reinforcement embedded in session notes: We should remove the punishment contingencies around data collection and admin work.
🔮 A look ahead: Adam shares his vision for AI in ABA, and how it could streamline services without sacrificing ethics or outcomes
💡 Whether you're excited about AI or skeptical of it, this episode will challenge your assumptions and leave you with a clearer picture of where the field is headed.
📌 Resources Mentioned:
✅ Intraverbal AI – Explore Adam's company and tools designed to support ABA professionals
✅ Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment
✅ ABA Billing Tips
✅ Book a Free Consult with Stephen
✅ ABA Start-Up Checklist
🎧 Listen in and reimagine the future of ABA—with both humans and machines in mind.
🎙 ABA Business Leaders Podcast: Finding Your Why with ‘ABA on Tap’
In this special crossover episode, April and Stephen team up with Mike and Dan of the ABA On Tap podcast for a candid conversation about the often-unspoken challenges of ABA business ownership. Together, they explore what it really takes to start and grow a sustainable practice, and the personal and professional costs when your foundation isn’t strong.
From the importance of having a clear “why,” to why some BCBAs shouldn’t be business owners, this episode is packed with straight talk, field-tested advice, and a few laughs. You’ll also hear why neglecting your RBTs and obsessing over billables can erode your mission faster than you think.
Inside the episode:
💡 Why your “why” matters more than your business plan
🛑 The real reasons many ABA start-ups struggle—or fail
🎯 How to build a people-first company without sacrificing growth
💬 Why undervaluing your RBTs is a fast track to burnout and turnover
⚠️ The trap of focusing only on billables—and what it’s really costing you
========================================================
🔗 Resources: ✅ Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment Know where your practice stands—and what you need to fix https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment
✅ ABA Billing Tips Protect your revenue with smarter billing strategies https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips
✅ Book a Free Consult with Stephen Unfiltered, practical advice for ABA business owners https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page
Welcome to the ABA Business Leaders News, the go-to show for aspiring and current ABA practice owners who want to keep up to date with the latest happenings in the world of ABA.
Every week, your hosts April and Stephen Smith bring you actionable insights, news, and real-world advice to help you navigate the challenges and celebrate the wins of starting and running your own ABA practice.
🗓️ Live Every Monday: We stream this podcast live in our exclusive Facebook group, where members can interact, ask questions, and share their own experiences. 🎧 New Episode Every Tuesday: We release the recorded episode on all major podcast platforms so you can catch up anytime.
What to Expect Each Week:
✅ The latest news and real-time updates impacting ABA practice owners—legislation, funding, best practices, and trends
✅ Tips, resources, and real-world guidance on launching, managing, and scaling your practice
✅ Stories and experiences from our own journey, and from other professionals in the field
✅ Interactive Q&A from our Facebook group members
Whether you’re dreaming of starting your own practice, just getting off the ground, or looking to take your ABA business to the next level, April and Stephen are here to help you every step of the way.
👉 Join the Conversation: Be part of our supportive Facebook community and get involved in the live episodes. Your questions, comments, and stories are what make this podcast thrive!
____________________________________________________________________________________
If you’re ready to build a strong foundation for your ABA practice, don’t miss my ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs here:
👉 https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs It’s a great way to stay ahead with practical insights.
Wondering how to start an ABA business or how to know your ABA business is ready to scale? Check out my free ABA Business Readiness Assessment:
👉 https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment
And if you’re looking for straightforward ABA billing tips to keep your cash flow healthy, grab my quick guide here:
👉 https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips
Let’s get your business on track—one step at a time.
🎙 Looking After Your RBTs, Part 2: Knowing Your Worth With Special Guests: Chris, Liz, and Rebecca from AByay!
In Part 2 of this raw and real conversation, April and Stephen continue their deep dive with the incredible team at AByay!—Chris, Liz, and Rebecca—unpacking the realities of working as an RBT and what meaningful support looks like.
This episode answers hard questions:
👉 When is it time to leave your ABA company?
👉 What do RBTs truly want and need from their workplaces?
👉 Why are so many technicians burning out—and how can we stop it?
The guests share powerful stories, practical systems, and a few truths bombs every BCBA and ABA business owner needs to hear.
🔍 Inside the Episode:
🛑 “Is it time to move on?” Drawing the line when your ABA workplace isn’t serving you anymore
💬 What techs really want in the field—and how we can truly support them
🔥 The real reasons RBTs are burning out (and why these issues aren’t just about workload)
🔧 Concrete examples of how AByay! builds a culture of communication and collaboration
📣Keeping RBTs informed: Why transparency is everything on the tech side
💥 Chris’ mic-drop moment: “We know our worth. Our mission is to provide the highest quality services that we can.”
💸 Stephen breaks it down: It costs over $7K to train a tech. Protecting that investment means building workplaces where they want to stay
Whether you’re an RBT navigating your career or a leader trying to build a team that thrives, this episode is a must-listen.
📌 Resources Mentioned:
✅ Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment
✅ ABA Billing Tips
✅ Book a Free Consult with Stephen
✅ ABA Start-Up Checklist
💡 SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT: MarginKeepers
Accounting. Taxes. Consulting. Built for ABA.
MarginKeepers helps ABA providers focus on care—not spreadsheets. Their team understands the ins and outs of ABA operations and delivers the financial clarity practices need to grow with confidence.
Services:
✅ABA-Specific Accounting & Reporting
✅Tax Compliance & Cost-Saving Strategies
✅Business Consulting for ABA Practices
Tools You Can Use:
Request your free Chart of Accounts by emailing MarginKeepers
MarginKeepers has built resources for practices like yours:
MarginKeepers isn’t just a vendor—they’re a financial partner for ABA providers who want to grow smarter and stay compliant.
Welcome to the ABA Business Leaders News, the go-to show for aspiring and current ABA practice owners who want to keep up to date with the latest happenings in the world of ABA.
Every week, your hosts April and Stephen Smith bring you actionable insights, news, and real-world advice to help you navigate the challenges and celebrate the wins of starting and running your own ABA practice.
🗓️ Live Every Monday: We stream this podcast live in our exclusive Facebook group, where members can interact, ask questions, and share their own experiences. 🎧 New Episode Every Tuesday: We release the recorded episode on all major podcast platforms so you can catch up anytime.
What to Expect Each Week:
✅ The latest news and real-time updates impacting ABA practice owners—legislation, funding, best practices, and trends
✅ Tips, resources, and real-world guidance on launching, managing, and scaling your practice
✅ Stories and experiences from our own journey, and from other professionals in the field
✅ Interactive Q&A from our Facebook group members
Whether you’re dreaming of starting your own practice, just getting off the ground, or looking to take your ABA business to the next level, April and Stephen are here to help you every step of the way.
👉 Join the Conversation: Be part of our supportive Facebook community and get involved in the live episodes. Your questions, comments, and stories are what make this podcast thrive!
____________________________________________________________________________________
If you’re ready to build a strong foundation for your ABA practice, don’t miss my ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs here:
👉 https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs It’s a great way to stay ahead with practical insights.
Wondering how to start an ABA business or how to know your ABA business is ready to scale? Check out my free ABA Business Readiness Assessment:
👉 https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment
And if you’re looking for straightforward ABA billing tips to keep your cash flow healthy, grab my quick guide here:
👉 https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips
Let’s get your business on track—one step at a time.
From the publisher's feed
You started an ABA practice because you wanted to provide good services. Now you are also responsible for hiring, payroll, billing, training, supervision, policies, and making sure there is enough…
We get it. We ran an ABA practice for nearly 10 years, and we know what it feels like when the business depends on you to hold everything together.
ABA Business Leaders is hosted by April and Stephen Smith, the owners of 3 Pie Squared. We talk about the practical work of starting, running, and growing an Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) practice. That includes the decisions that affect your staff, your families, your finances, and the quality of the services you provide.
Some problems look simple until you start looking at where they came from. A billing issue may have started at intake. A staff performance issue may come back to unclear expectations or training that never included a competency check. A full schedule can look great while the company is struggling to make payroll. These are the kinds of things we talk through.
Along with our guests, we share experiences, ask questions, and discuss what owners and leaders can do to build better systems. You’ll hear conversations about:
We also talk about the strain of ownership. It is difficult to support your team when you are burned out, making every decision, and fixing the same problems every week. Hiring more people or adding more clients does not automatically fix that. You need to understand what is breaking down and build systems that your team can actually use.
Whether you are preparing to open your doors, managing an established practice, or leading a team, our goal is to give you something useful to think about and bring back to your company. We want more ABA businesses that can provide quality care, support their staff, pay their bills, and keep doing that over time.
Learn more about our training, handbooks, consulting, credentialing, billing services, and practice management software at 3piesquared.com.

623 Listeners

1,322 Listeners

1,986 Listeners

29,036 Listeners

62 Listeners

28 Listeners