The 97th episode of the Rechtsgespräch podcast is a special episode - about access to justice at the EU's external borders. It is an English language version of episode 96. From Greece and Poland. I was on the island of Lesvos to see how the situation for refugees and migrants has changed since I first went there in 2015/16. And I was in Athens, visiting the main office of the European Lawyers in Lesvos, an NGO that focuses on first aid legal advice. There, I spoke with refugees, with lawyers, German Referendarinnen (trainee lawyers) and with the managing director of European Lawyers Phil Worthington. I was also in Poland: in Warsaw, Bialystok and on the border with Belarus. There too, in the Białowieża Forest, people cross the border every day. I also spoke to lawyers on the EU's eastern external border, to volunteers and to activists who are not lawyers, but who also provide access to justice. And I spoke with experts from academia and practice and with a politician from the conservative EPP group in the European Parliament who helped negotiate the current EU's migration pact.

With this special episode, the Rechtsgespräch podcast takes a break. Thanks to all my guests and listeners, and to Hannah Brügmann: She helped me produce every single one of the nearly 100 episodes of the Rechtsgespräch podcast.

00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:46 Chapter 1: to have rights

00:23:37 Chapter 2: to know one's rights

00:31:28 Chapter 3: to have possibilities to enforce one's rights

00:39:26 Chapter 4: in a system of administration of justice ruled by law

00:58:06 Thank you