Brian Gray made partner at a top 100 CPA firm, built a career advising billionaires and high-net-worth families on complex tax strategies, and then realized that none of it had made him any happier.

Brian is a tax partner, award-winning CPA, frequent speaker at the USC Tax Institute, and the author of Suck Less, Laugh More. He has had a front-row seat to some of the world's most successful entrepreneurs and noticed a pattern: about 10% of them get the balance right and 90% are still searching. By his early forties, he recognized himself in that pattern. He was helping clients structure their legacies while his own family life was strained, and he had been telling himself that family came first when his actions said otherwise.

This conversation goes deeper than practice management. Brian shares the specific moment that shifted everything, the exercises he used to identify the beliefs running in the background, and how he rebuilt his personal values, his family values, and eventually his firm's values from the ground up. His firm's core value landed on caring, and he and his business partner made the financial commitments to back it up, hiring for capacity and reinvesting in their team even when it meant reducing the bottom line.

The conversation covers:

• Why making partner didn't change anything and how that realization set off a deeper search
• How having a front-row seat to entrepreneurial clients revealed the pattern: financial success rarely equals fulfillment
• Why telling yourself family comes first when your actions say otherwise keeps you stuck
• How writing down seven days of negative and positive emotions reveals the patterns running in the background
• Why he moved "success" from his number one value to number six and replaced it with love
• How his firm landed on caring as its core value and then made the hiring decisions to actually live it
• The warrior and the wizard framework: why achieving eventually needs to give way to mastering your emotions

TIMESTAMPS

• 00:00 - Brannon Poe intro and podcast welcome 
• 00:13 - Introducing Brian Gray: tax partner, speaker, author of "Suck Less, Laugh More" 
• 00:48 - The gap between financial success and fulfillment: what Brian observed in wealthy clients 
• 01:39 - Asking the question: when is enough, enough? 
• 02:05 - Making partner and realizing it did not solve anything 
• 03:07 - The Olympic gold medal pattern: achieving the goal and wondering what it was all for 
• 03:32 - What the astronauts who went to the moon felt when they came back 
• 04:02 - How alcohol became a way to numb the gap between achievement and meaning 
• 04:51 - What it looks like when high-achieving CPA clients are financially successful but not fulfilled 
• 05:10 - Growing as a way to become more, not just accumulate more 
• 06:12 - The midlife reset: when it arrives, how long it lasts, and what kind of clarity it takes 
• 06:51 - Helping clients structure their legacies while his own life needed restructuring 
• 07:17 - The specific moment of clarity: "my family deserves better than I'm being" 
• 08:21 - Being honest about what really came first: business or family 
• 09:03 - The lies high achievers tell themselves and how the ego protects against discomfort 
• 09:49 - Humility and gratitude as the antidote to self-deception 
• 10:13 - How a core belief like "success equals happiness" gets installed and how to question it 
• 10:55 - Shifting the number one core value from success to love, and what changed 
• 11:17 - The seven-day emotion-tracking exercise from "Suck Less, Laugh More" 
• 11:58 - What the exercise reveals about the emotional patterns running in the background 
• 12:22 - The warrior and the wizard: why the achiever eventually gets tired 
• 12:45 - Why high achievers are especially at risk of the burnout that comes from the warrior pattern 
• 13:07 - Tony Robbins on emotion: you have already felt what you are chasing 
• 13:26 - Why the satisfaction from external achievements lasts days, not months 
• 14:04 - Stated values vs. lived values: how Brian approached this for himself, his family, and his firm 
• 14:39 - Writing down eight family values with his kids in middle school 
• 15:29 - How the firm's leadership team landed on "caring" as the number one company value 
• 16:08 - What it actually means to live the value of caring: hiring for capacity and investing in the team 
• 16:27 - Hiring and client decisions driven by values, not just targets 
• 17:07 - Funny story: parenting teenagers and the wisdom of just saying yes 
• 18:15 - Book recommendation: "Suck Less, Laugh More" by Brian Gray 
• 18:42 - Additional recommendation: "Die with Zero" by Bill Perkins 
• 19:03 - Where to connect with Brian: LinkedIn

Book Recommendations:

Suck Less, Laugh More by Brian Gray 

Die with Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life by Bill Perkins

Meghan Hickman has spent over three years as our EOS implementer at Poe Group Advisors, and this conversation is one we have been looking forward to sharing. Meghan works with entrepreneurial leadership teams to help them build structure, create accountability, and scale with intention. She has helped over 40 organizations do exactly that, including ours.

The conversation covers:

• How a career in politics taught Meghan to recognize when your work is bringing out the worst in you
• Why the "right person, right seat" framework gives leaders language for decisions they already sense but can't articulate
• How the Accountability Chart reveals the structure a firm actually needs vs. the one it has outgrown
• Why the Vision Traction Organizer works where traditional strategic plans fail, because it evolves every 90 days
• How to distinguish between head signals and heart signals when deciding whether to restructure or exit
• Why the companies that scale fastest are the ones willing to run toward hard problems and simplify relentlessly
• How vulnerability-based trust separates teams that break through from teams that stay stuck

Timestamps:
00:36 - Meghan's background: from US Senate press secretary to entrepreneur 01:26 - How a copy of "Traction" in 2014 changed the direction of Meghan's career 
01:52 - Growing an EOS company by 62% in five years and launching her own practice 
03:12 - Starting in the least entrepreneurial environment possible: bureaucracy vs. the private sector 
04:43 - The moment Meghan knew it was time to leave: the night Osama bin Laden was captured 
06:09 - Sending out resumes at 1:00 in the morning and the one that changed everything 
07:48 - Effective self vs. destructive self activity: the exercise that explained everything 
09:28 - What working in the private sector revealed about her unique abilities 
11:14 - Core value alignment: using values to attract the right people like a magnet 
13:04 - Why the press secretary seat was the wrong one and what EOS language helped her understand 
15:21 - Burnout vs. readiness to sell: how to tell the difference 
17:04 - Head signals: the business is running you, things feel harder than they should 
19:14 - The prescription for heart signals: a leap, whether that is a transition, a sale, or a new chapter 
22:02 - Meghan's own red flags: road rage, everyone seems difficult, an unmade bed 
25:37 - What the Accountability Chart actually does and why it matters past five or ten employees 
28:08 - The value of an outside perspective: seeing the game when you cannot see it from the field 
30:22 - The Vision Traction Organizer: a two-page strategic plan that actually gets used 
33:17 - How your ideal clients evolve as your firm evolves, and why revisiting matters every 90 days 
37:20 - Why firms that obsess over simplification and say no more than yes scale the fastest 
40:05 - Meghan's memorable career story: getting her senator to the Today show in the nick of time 
45:06 - There is no learning in the comfort zone, and no comfort in the learning zone 
45:48 - Book recommendations: "Traction," The Five Minute Journal, and "The Gifts of Imperfection."

📚 Book Recommendations: 📚

• Traction: Get a Grip on Your Business by Gino Wickman [https://www.amazon.com/Traction-Get-Grip-Your-Business/dp/1936661837]
• The Five Minute Journal by Intelligent Change [https://www.amazon.com/Five-Minute-Journal-Happier-Minutes/dp/0991846206]
• The Gifts of Imperfection by Brené Brown [https://www.amazon.com/Gifts-Imperfection-Think-Supposed-Embrace/dp/159285849X]

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Joe Woodard has trained over 150,000 accounting professionals and spent his career studying what separates firms that grow from firms that stay stuck. His answer? It almost always starts with pricing.

In this conversation, Joe walks through the Woodard Ideal Practice Model, which focuses on seven key areas of operational excellence: brand, services, clients, technology, process, engagements, and team. But the most actionable insight he shares is simpler than a seven-part framework. He says the very first lever any firm should pull is pricing, and he lays out a specific strategy for doing it. Double the price on your bottom 20% of clients. If half of them stay, you have the same revenue. If all of them leave, you get the capacity back. Either way, you win.

Joe also shares a measured perspective on AI adoption, noting that mass adoption in accounting is still 12 to 18 months away and that the best thing practitioners can do right now is learn directly from the developers of the platforms they already use.

This episode is for firm owners curious about how to create capacity without hiring, practitioners ready to revisit their pricing strategy before the next busy season, leaders wondering where to start with advisory services, and anyone interested in a practical framework for building a more valuable practice.

Timestamps
00:14 - Introducing Joe Woodard: founder of Woodard, host of Scaling New Heights 
02:03 - How Joe's practice led to Scaling New Heights and a coaching and consulting division 
04:01 - The shift from compliance to advisory: what is holding CPA firms back 
06:01 - Skill set and mindset working together: cash flow projections, dashboards, and KPIs 
07:16 - The downward spiral: too busy to invest in new skills, team pressure, and turnover 
09:18 - Applying the Pareto Principle to your CPA firm client base 
10:42 - How to move methodically through the full client base after creating capacity 
12:19 - How pricing improvements affect CPA firm valuation: revenue per FTE and clients per million 
13:33 - Why the mindset block comes back around when targeting larger advisory clients 
16:34 - How to reinvent your service structure instead of just improving the existing one 
19:05 - Why most accounting firms are under-contracted and what to do about it 
20:13 - AI adoption in accounting: where the profession is now and how fast it is moving 
22:30 - Xero, QuickBooks, and Intuit: how AI integrations are already changing daily workflows 
24:08 - Joe's story: his daughter, a butterfly named Alicia, and a mockingbird 
27:01 - Book recommendation: "A World Without Work" by Daniel Susskind 
29:03 - Where to find Joe Woodard online: woodard.com

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Seven episodes. Dozens of real-world examples. One recurring answer.

Brannon Poe and Ian Brennan sit down one more time to close out the Power of Focus series. Throughout this series, the pattern that emerges is hard to ignore: the firms that get results are the ones that get intentional about where they put their energy.

This episode is for accounting firm owners who have listened to the series and are ready to identify their first move, practitioners curious about how the 80/20 Principle applies to their client list and services, leaders wondering how to build a team culture that attracts and retains the right people, and CPA firm owners ready to shift from working in the firm to working on it.

Timestamps: 

• 01:04 - Welcome to the final episode of the Power of Focus series 
• 02:20 - Ian opens the conversation: recurring themes across the Power of Focus series 
• 03:40 - Why focus is a simple concept with a powerful and consistent payoff 
• 04:40 - Why creating capacity is the essential first step for any CPA firm transformation 
• 05:25 - Where Brannon's focus on focus came from: the 80/20 Principle by Richard Koch 
• 07:06 - Letting go: Greg Toner and Bill and Chris Murphy as standout examples from the series 
• 07:54 - Staffing in a shrinking talent pool: why culture is the most durable retention strategy 08:54 - How client selection and service mix affect team morale and turnover in CPA firms 
• 09:39 - Why sharing a clear vision with your team matters more than most firm owners realize 10:27 - What Brannon has observed about vision when selling accounting firms in the M&A space 
• 12:30 - How a focused vision makes your CPA firm more attractive to job candidates 
• 14:04 - Why being a jack of all trades limits margins and exhausts accounting firm owners 
• 15:57 - Greg Toner's growth model: how knowing the recipe made scaling repeatable 
• 16:21 - Brannon's closing thought: find a mastermind and surround yourself with other firm owners 
• 17:08 - Ian closes the series: seven episodes, real results, an invitation to dive in

A niche accounting firm with 45% cash flow and 1,500 owner hours sold for 5.6 million dollars on 2.6 million in revenue. That is the kind of result possible when a CPA firm owner gets intentional about the factors buyers care about most. In this episode, Brannon Poe sits down with Laurens Ball, a highly accomplished intermediary at Poe Group Advisors, to break down what really drives practice valuations in today's market.

This is the latest episode in our Power of Focus series, where we explore how CPA firm owners use focus as a strategic advantage. Laurens brings real-world case studies from the M&A side, showing how niche firms consistently grow faster, charge 20 to 40% higher fees, and attract buyers willing to pay premium prices. From a dental-focused practice generating daily referrals to an agricultural firm that found its perfect buyer by leaning into its specialty, the evidence is clear: focus pays off at the point of sale.

Timestamps

00:00 - Introduction to the Power of Focus series and Accounting Practice Academy 

00:25 - Welcoming Laurens Ball, senior intermediary at Poe Group Advisors 

01:32 - What is a focused CPA firm? Laurens' definition 

02:13 - Why intentionality is the foundation of practice growth 

02:37 - Why hesitant-to-niche firm owners are leaving value on the table 

03:19 - How niche accounting practices grow faster and charge 20 to 40% higher fees 

03:52 - Dental niche example: weekly referrals and consistent growth 

04:08 - Professional poker player niche: a memorable and lower-owner-hour firm 

05:00 - Why niche firm margins, growth, and owner hours make them desirable at market 

05:27 - Cost segregation firm: multiple offers, all-cash close 

06:16 - Agricultural firm example: tractor on the website and the right buyer match 

07:46 - Current state of the CPA firm M&A market in spring 2026 

08:09 - When strong firms can see 7X EBITDA and what it takes to get there 

09:03 - Niche firm sold at 5.6X: what the numbers looked like 

09:41 - What buyers are really evaluating: cash flow, team strength, growth prospects 

10:43 - How de-risking your accounting firm opens up more buyers and better terms 

11:48 - Why the team is becoming the most important factor for roll-up buyers 

11:48 - The "90-day question": what falls apart first if the owner steps away 

12:08 - How to analyze your CPA firm client list for quality, fit, and pricing 

12:31 - Seller case study: raising fees from $360 toward $700, keeping 98% of clients 

14:08 - Across-the-board 20% price increase: 2,000 returns, five clients left 

14:49 - CPAs have more pricing power than ever, with some firms at $2,000 per 1040 

16:32 - How owner dependence affects buyer interest and sale terms 

18:35 - Success story: owner reduced hours by 500 while keeping EBITDA steady 

19:26 - Top advice for accounting firm owners who are 3 to 5 years from a sale 

20:31 - How six months to a year of changes can mean $1 million more in valuation 

21:02 - Why team health is the longest-lead and highest-impact strategy before a sale 

22:33 - Why owner-centric practitioners are hardest to get to stop and look at the firm

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Ric Payne has been thinking about how accountants build better practices for decades. If you have been in the industry for a while, you likely know about Ric Payne. 

He co-founded Results Accounting Systems in 1992, ran the Accountants Boot Camp across multiple continents, and worked with thousands of firms around the world. 

His conclusion? High-performing firms are selective about who they work with. 

The conversation also features Ian Brennan, director of Accounting Practice Academy (APA), a PGA workshop. Ian and Ric discuss how intentional client selection is foundational to everything else a firm tries to do; from pricing and marketing to advisory services and succession planning. 

This episode is for firm owners curious about how strategic client selection creates pricing power and referral momentum, practitioners ready to build a client base that supports an advisory practice, CPA firm leaders wondering how to increase net profit without simply chasing more revenue, and accountants who want to build a practice they are genuinely excited to show up for.

Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction to The Accountant's Flight Plan podcast and guests
3:11 - Overview of the episode: client selection and Ric's white paper
6:42 - Why having no client criteria means having no strategy
7:33 - Steve Jobs on what not to do: the decision framework that changed Ric's approach
9:01 - The four growth profiles: fast-start satisfier, opportunistic harvester, & the patient builder
15:15 - The founder's gap vs. the Midas gap: two very different CPA firm outcomes
19:07 - Baker's Law: bad clients drive out good clients
20:54 - Why partners with lower utilization often have the highest net profit per partner
23:18 - Systems theory: your CPA firm is perfectly designed for the results it gets
26:58 - John Wooden's definition of success and why it applies to accounting firm owners
32:53 - Case study: UK accounting firm replaces ten 1,000-pound clients with one 10,000-pound client
37:01 - Dealing with imposter syndrome when stepping into an advisory role
41:11 - The 11 client selection criteria: the full walkthrough begins
57:05 - Roger Martin's Playing to Win [https://www.amazon.com/dp/142218739X ]and how it applies to accounting practice management
1:00:44 - Brannon on how the criteria tie back to personality, results, and client experience
1:05:46 - APA lesson: You cannot market your accounting firm if you don't know who your clients are
1:08:13 - How to find Ric Payne and access the client selection white paper

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Jason Ackerman, Co-Managing Partner at BNA Advisors, helped grow the firm from a $1.5 million firm to over $7 million organically, without acquiring a single practice. He joined his father's firm in 2012, scaled the team from 14 to 35 people, and built systems that allow the firm to handle more than 2,000 individual tax returns per year. His approach combines practical technology adoption, intentional pricing strategy, and a long view on people and talent.

This is the fifth episode in our Power of Focus series and Jason's story is a strong example of what is possible when a firm stops trying to do everything and starts doing the right things well. This episode digs into the specific tools and tactics Jason's team is using right now, during tax season. His firm is rolling out 8821 authorizations for every client so they can pull IRS transcripts through Tax Now, catching payment discrepancies and missed filings before they become problems. They are also using a payment platform called Remission to schedule quarterly estimated payments for clients in one place. They’re reducing the back-and-forth and keeping the firm proactive rather than reactive. Both moves are part of a broader philosophy: reduce what the client has to do, increase what the firm can see.

The through line of this conversation is intentionality. Jason is not automating things for the sake of automation, he’s not chasing every new AI platform, and he’s not pricing low to win volume. Every decision connects back to a clear standard: does this make the practice better, or does it just add noise? That kind of focus, applied consistently over more than a decade, is how a $1.5 million firm becomes a $7 million firm without a single acquisition.

This episode is for CPA firm owners curious about building scalable systems without outside capital, practitioners ready to revisit their pricing strategy before the next season, firm managers wondering how to develop staff into more business-aware team members, and accounting practice owners thinking ahead about talent and technology in a changing industry.

Timestamps

• 00:36 - Jason Ackerman introduces BNA Advisors: $7M firm, organic growth, and co-founding a software startup
• 01:08 - Growing a CPA firm from $1.5M to $7M without acquisitions since 2012
• 02:21 - Series context: practice management tactics for tax season 2026
• 03:23 - Why tax compliance still requires real expertise despite the shift toward advisory
• 05:07 - The 8821 strategy: pulling IRS transcripts proactively for every accounting client
• 06:46 - Using Remission to schedule and track quarterly estimated tax payments
• 08:24 - The biggest operational pain points BNA solved as the firm scaled to 35 people
• 09:22 - Why Karbon became a cornerstone of BNA's CPA firm practice management system
• 10:52 - How to approach technology adoption: change one thing at a time
• 12:15 - How Jason evaluates new software as an early adopter in the accounting industry
• 13:22 - A measured take on AI tools: waiting for the market to shake out
• 15:56 - How private equity is reshaping the accounting talent pipeline
• 27:42 - Why value pricing is the single biggest lever for CPA firm owners preparing to sell
• 29:21 - Why pricing high from the start attracts better accounting clients and protects your time
• 30:38 - Book recommendation: discussion of the Karbon co-founder book featuring BNA Advisors

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Chip Summers worked 2,900 hours a year for over 25 years. Every Saturday. Some Sundays. Always behind. Then he made a series of decisions that transformed his firm.

He raised prices across the board. He moved on from high-maintenance, low-return clients. He gave up control and let his staff handle work from start to finish. He invested in technology that made everyone more efficient. And in December 2025, for the first time in over 25 years, he was caught up. He had almost nothing to do. It felt weird, but wonderful.

Today, Chip's eight-person firm in Orangeburg, South Carolina doesn't work Saturdays anymore. They close every Friday after tax season. During tax season, they're only open half days on Fridays. His staff isn't burnt out. His clients bring organized documents instead of shoe boxes. And he's serving as Vice Chair of the South Carolina Board of Accountancy while running a healthier practice than he ever thought possible.

This is the fourth episode in our Power of Focus series, where we explore how CPA firm owners use focus as a strategic advantage. Chip's story shows that transformation doesn't happen overnight, but when you touch every aspect of your practice with intentional changes, the results compound.

The conversation covers:

• How working 2,900 hours a year with no end in sight became the motivation for change
• Why pricing was only part of the transformation, giving up control mattered just as much
• The year they set minimums and lost fewer than five clients
• How technology investments made the team more efficient without increasing hours
• Why closing Fridays after tax season boosted staff morale and reduced turnover
• The decision to exit attestation work and focus entirely on tax planning and consulting
• How being upfront about pricing changes led to almost zero pushback from clients

Chip's biggest lesson? You can't do it all yourself. Most accountants want to touch everything from start to finish. But when you structure your staff to handle work properly, invest in the right technology, and price your services to match the value you deliver, you create capacity you didn't know was possible. And that capacity changes everything.

This episode is for firm owners working too many hours for the revenue they're generating, leaders curious about how to delegate without losing quality, practitioners wondering if it's possible to run a firm without weekend work, and anyone ready to transform multiple aspects of their practice at once.

Time Stamps:
00:14 - Introduction: Chip Summers, Orangeburg CPA since 1991
01:34 - Serving as Vice Chair of SC Board of Accountancy
02:36 - The CPA firm that said yes to everyone for 45 years
03:18 - Why being everything to everybody became impossible
04:01 - Working 2,900 hours a year with no end in sight
05:32 - Caught up for the first time in 25 years: how it felt
06:10 - You can't do it all yourself: restructuring Accounting staff workflows
07:17 - Technology investments that made everyone more efficient
07:29 - Discussing pricing upfront and what changed
08:39 - From shoe boxes to organized Tax clients
09:24 - A completely different CPA firm than four years ago
10:21 - No more Saturday work for staff
10:57 - Raising prices 5-10% every year and losing fewer than five clients
12:03 - The biggest change: giving up control
13:27 - When staff burn out, they leave, and someone else gets your investment
14:03 - The story of giving away a client file on his first month
15:21 - Book: The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins
15:45 - "Nobody is ever going to die from an accounting emergency."

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Greg Toner kept only his best clients, raised prices, picked one niche, and grew his practice 15X.

While many CPAs accept any business that comes their way, Greg found success by being highly selective. He looked at his client list, identified the bottom 10% who weren't getting value from his work, and let them go. Then he raised fees on the clients who remained. His team didn't complain. His revenue didn't drop. And the capacity he created allowed him to focus exclusively on serving veterinarians across Canada.

Today, Greg works with 360 vet practices from coast to coast. He doesn't prepare tax returns anymore. He doesn't do bookkeeping. His role has evolved into technical sales and high-level tax planning because he built systems that allow his team to handle the rest. When you niche down and get really good at solving the same 15 problems over and over, referrals fly and close rates skyrocket.

This is the third episode in our Power of Focus series, where we explore how CPA firm owners use focus as a strategic advantage. Greg's story proves that the riches really are in the niches, but only if you're willing to make the hard decisions first.

Timestamps:
01:55 - How firing the wrong Accounting clients changed everything
03:18 - The APA spreadsheet that made the decision obvious
04:14 - Why his team was happy to see clients leave
04:57 - No revenue loss, not even in the short term
05:19 - The dam holding back good clients
06:17 - Why he joined APA (opportunistic, not desperate)
07:01 - From sole Accounting practitioner to 15X revenue
07:28 - Evolving from doer to technical sales role
09:11 - The mental leap of hiring high-salary staff for your CPA firm 
11:07 - Solve the same problem 100 times, become a hero
12:23 - Why niching down made CPA Firm growth rapid
13:26 - 10 leads a week, high close rate
13:50 - How 15 vet clients became 360 across Canada
15:18 - The horror film basement full of paper files
16:56 - Book: 10x Is Easier Than 2x by Dan Sullivan

Bill and Chris Murphy increased their firm's value by half a million dollars in six months. They weren't desperate to sell, just ready to work reasonable hours with clients they liked. So they did something about it. They fired almost all their individual tax clients and more than doubled their fees.

The result? They gained revenue and clients happily paid for the valuable work they provided. Their firm had the capacity to provide even better service to their remaining clients. . And when they sold their firm with us back in 2022, they closed for $500,000 more than their original listing price.
This is a husband-and-wife team who merged their separate practices, worked themselves into the ground, and then made the hard decisions that transformed everything. They cut unprofitable clients, raised prices dramatically, restructured staff workload through weekly meetings, and learned to trust the process even when it felt uncomfortable.

Bill and Chris didn't just sell their firm. They sold a better firm, a more profitable firm, a firm that didn't depend on them working unreasonable hours. And they did it by firing clients who don't fit, charging what they're worth, and trusting that the revenue will come back.
This episode is for firm owners who know there is a better way to build a balanced practice, but haven’t known how to get there. This is a success case study on the power focus! 

Key Timestamps:
02:21 - Bill's biggest roadblock: staying in the weeds and not developing staff
04:18 - The mental, spiritual, and physical toll of holding onto all the work
07:12 - The big move: firing almost all individual tax clients
08:35 - How the first APA lesson paid for the entire workshop
09:57 - The biggest obstacle to letting clients go: themselves, not the clients
12:49 - How pruning clients created capacity for everything else
13:21 - Doubling fees and the apology that worked
14:37 - "I'm sorry for undercharging you before."
16:02 - You have to put the work in, APA isn't passive
17:14 - Monday morning meetings: agenda, time limit, workload reallocation
19:16 - Driving the bus vs. riding in the back seat
24:24 - Book recommendation: Walk Away Wealthy by Mark Tepper