The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy

Addressing the Burnout Machine


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Curt and Katie talk about taking personal responsibility to decrease the impacts of the “Burnout Machine” that is the mental health profession. We look at what should go into an ideal work place and actions each of us can take to improve our own situation as well as the system as a whole. 

It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.

In this episode we talk about:

  • Looking at how to create better systems for mental health workplaces
  • Magical places that could provide adequate pay, training, and emotionally-focused supervision
  • The importance of incorporating the appropriate employee support into budgets
  • Employee engagement versus turnover
  • The need for larger conversations with stakeholders to improve things systemically
  • Sorting through the challenges and benefits of efficiency and productivity
  • Looking at training supervisors
  • The faulty notion that therapy isn’t about the therapist
  • The need for the business or administrative aspects – we can’t get rid of them.
  • Employee, employer, or entrepreneur skills are required for the system to work
  • Balancing the focus on the clinician as a member of the system, a professional, and as an individual
  • The risks of human connection within an employment situation
  • The benefits of exploring the emotions and human connection on professional development, client outcomes
  • Looking at the expectations around supervision that are described in graduate school
  • Addressing the parallel process within the supervisor/supervisee and therapist/client
  • The power differential in becoming a supervisor and navigating the relationship
  • Knowing ourselves at all developmental stages
  • The impact of “Supervision of Supervision” groups
  • The unfortunate scenario where people are rushing to licensure without meeting their developmental stages
  • Being able to support prelicensees’ primary needs of survival (providing financial stability) so they can slow down and take care of their developmental stages
  • How to set up a career that works for you
  • How to identify opportunities to move the profession forward
  • Assessing your own capacities to improve your career and the profession
  • The problem of being cynical and complaining about the system instead of taking action
  • Taking a personal look and personal responsibility for your career
  • ...more
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