What if there’s nothing to fix? What if you could just, you know, be yourself - whatever that looks like today? 

 

When I told people that this week’s guest was none other than adrienne maree brown - the excitement level was off the charts. adrienne maree brown is the author of Emergent Strategy and Pleasure Activism, among other works, and she’s instrumental in opening conversations about bodies, power, grief, and change (personal and collective). 

 

This week, it’s all grief - and it’s all love. There is nothing to fix, and there is plenty to change. 

 

In this episode we cover: 

 

• How self-sabotaging behaviors become addictive
• The freedom of being yourself (and why that pisses other people off)
• How can you make this day worthy of your grief? 
• Why humor sometimes fits “the shape of grief” and sometimes it does not
• Feelings are your body’s way of communicating needs
• What mycelium and mushrooms can teach us about death
• adrienne’s vision of the future - including aliens, education, poetry, and love 

Want to learn the skills you need to work with grief? Join Megan’s grief intensive training right here. 

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Coming Home to Yourself with Alex Elle

Notable quotes:

“The same Goddess of the ocean and stars and everything magnificent, is also the god

of mosquitoes and bug bites and cancer.” - adrienne maree brown

“People are so angry about all the ways that we're just being ourselves. And I'm like, you're only angry because you haven't given yourself permission to do it too.” -  adrienne maree brown

About our guest:

adrienne maree brown is the author of wildly influential books including Emergent Strategy, We Will Not Cancel Us and Pleasure Activism, plus the novellas Grievers and Maroons. She is a social media meme queen, writer, podcaster, musician, and movement facilitator based in Durham, NC. 

 

Find her at adriennemareebrown.net, and on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

About Megan: 

Psychotherapist and bestselling author Megan Devine is recognized as one of today’s most insightful and original voices on grief, from life-altering losses to the everyday grief that we don’t call grief. She helms a consulting practice in Los Angeles and serves as an organizational consultant for the healthcare and human resources industries. 

The best-selling book on grief in over a decade, Megan’s It’s Ok that You’re Not OK, is a global phenomenon that has been translated into more than 25 languages. Her celebrated animations and explainers have garnered over 75 million views and are used in training programs around the world.

 

Additional resources:

Boundaried in Love with Prentis Hemphill and adrienne maree brown

 

“The Pleasure Dome” by adrienne maree brown, Bitch Media

 

Want to become a more grief-informed, human-centered therapist or provider? Registration is open now for Megan Devine’s 6 month online Grief Care Professional Certificate Program. Details at this link.

 

Want to talk with Megan directly? Join our patreon community for an inexpensive monthly open video Q&A clinic for grieving people. Want to speak to her privately? Apply for a 1:1 grief consultation here. 

 

Check out Megan’s best-selling books - It’s OK That You're Not OK and How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed 

 

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