We’re back, baby. Delusionally tired from a week of Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week Australia, and ready to rag on the new season of 'Game of Thrones'. This week, what it feels like when street style photographers refuse to photograph you, how 'GoT' lost its way in season eight, what the third SATC movie should've covered, baby Archie's name, and a rogue conversation about Amy Schumer. Why did we start hating her all of a sudden? And why are the people we hate always women?Follow us on Instagram at @afterworkdrinkspodcast and join our private Facebook group, 'After Work Drinks Podcast.'Recommendations: The Cut On Tuesdays ‘What If You Regret Becoming A Mother?’https://gimletmedia.com/shows/the-cut-on-tuesdays/z3hg94/what-if-you-regret-becoming-a-momThe Cut on Tuesdays ‘Call Your Mom’https://gimletmedia.com/shows/the-cut-on-tuesdays/39hr82/call-your-momSaving Sex and The City 3https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/saving-sex-and-the-city-3/id1378862255Sinead Burke On Becoming The First Little Person To Attend The Met Gala in British Voguehttps://www.vogue.co.uk/article/sinead-burke-gucci-met-gala'Awards Chatter' Podcast — Keira Knightley ('Colette')https://player.fm/series/awards-chatter-1401973/keira-knightley-coletteGame of ThronesThe O.C.Trainwreck (2015)

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What a week it's been! From surprise celebrity weddings to a quick sojourn to Paris and a royal baby, we have a lot to debrief on. Oh, and there was *that* Game of Thrones episode. But we're really here for one reason and one reason only: Met Gala. Izzy and Grace take out their fashion commentator hats and do an in-depth analysis of the red carpet. Best Met Gala ever? Follow us on Instagram at @afterworkdrinkspodcast and join our private Facebook group, 'After Work Drinks Podcast.'Recommendations:Years Ago, My Sister Vanished. I see Her Whenever I Want. in The New York Timeshttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/03/style/modern-love-sister-vanished.htmlAnjelica Huston, In Conversation in Vulturehttps://www.vulture.com/2019/05/anjelica-huston-in-conversation.htmlGuantanamo's Darkest Secret by Ben Taub in The New Yorkerhttps://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/22/guantanamos-darkest-secret

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It turns out Grace isn't the only one who can't play sport to save her life and thanks to a few listener's hilarious childhood stories she's feeling better about *that* basketball incident. We have a few incredible true crime documentary recommendations and Izzy's obsessed with this crazy sex cult called NXIVM, which attracted millionaires and celebrities with the founders currently going through the court system. Speaking of celebs, Olivia Munn's Twitter essay and Lizzo's smackdown of an unfavourable review has the journalism world questioning - are celebrities getting a little thin-skinned? Plus, according to recent studies, young adults are drinking less than ever before and the 'sober curious' movement shows no signs of slowing down. It's a no brainer that alcohol is bad for our psychical and mental health, so should we all just stop drinking? (Spoiler: we were drinking rosé while debating this).Ps! We’ll post all our recommendations and behind the scenes on Instagram: @afterworkdrinkspodcast . Plus, you can join our closed Facebook group, After Work Drinks Podcast. Recommendations: Billie Eilish (lol)To watch: The Case Against Adnan Syed, The Jinx, The Bold TypeTo read: Celebrities couldn't take criticism this weekhttps://www.vogue.com/article/olivia-munn-fug-girls-ariana-grande-justin-bieber-lizzoThe Instagram aesthetic is overhttps://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/04/influencers-are-abandoning-instagram-look/587803/Listen to: Escaping NXIVM (season one of Uncover: The Village podcast)

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Kanye suggested it months ago in a ye olde Twitter rant and now Instagram is considering removing how many likes you get on images, which could result in the influencer apocalypse and free the rest of us from the dopamine like cycle for good. Plus, is asking for help the real secret to success? And in recent years, the term ‘having it all’ has been redefined, broken down and dismissed, so why are we all still subconsciously trying to get there? And where even is ‘there’? And then we kinda lose it and talk shit about being useless at sport and being bullied in primary school. Enjoy

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‘Intuitive eating’ is the new buzzphrase taking over the wellness industry, but unlike other fad diets, this philosophy is something we can actually get behind. Off the back of our new attempt at body neutrality, we talk about our relationships with food, dieting and body image growing up, plus the effect Instagram has and the world’s ridiculous notion that overweight automatically equals unhealthy. Plus, it’s Coachella mania, complete with a Jordyn Woods/Kardashian run in and The Daily Mail’s gross reporting on Tammy Hembrow. And finally, Grace is upset that an AWD Book Club movement started without her. To stay up to date and for all our recommendations, follow @afterworkdrinkspodcast on Instagram. To have your say on our topics, join our private Facebook group, 'After Work Drinks Podcast'. You can email us on [email protected] To read: A Little Life by Hanya Yanagihara, Conversations with Friends by Sally Rooney, The Secret History by Donna Tartt, The State of Affairs By Esther PerelEverything you know about obesity is wrong https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/everything-you-know-about-obesity-is-wrong/?fbclid=IwAR0fD36Ugo8QPKMfzCLDVEVb9gEZBXYpd9hiGZGFkcvtuOiAE3xgDp9izTIThe key to glorifying a questionable diet? Be a tech bro and call it ‘biohacking.’ https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-key-to-glorifying-a-questionable-diet-be-a-tech-bro-and-call-it-biohacking/2019/04/11/12368e2c-5ba2-11e9-842d-7d3ed7eb3957_story.html?fbclid=IwAR38LSZ9Hg-pWbe1p-m7jMknLE-COdQbW5a3VChcTybjZ03INFZ5ViAMCtE&noredirect=on&utm_term=.36178dd2c008Podcast: Don’t Salt my Game by Laura Thomas TV show: Game of Thrones (then put your theories in our FB group!)

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We're in an era where women value their independence even more than ever - but we're still collectively as obsessed with marriage as we ever have been. Why? Izzy and Grace discuss the role of marriage in 2019 - is it even relevant anymore? What's the point? Are we just doing it for Instagram? Plus, a full debrief on meeting Kendall Jenner - and why there's still no mania like Kardashian mania.To stay up to date and for all our recommendations, follow @afterworkdrinkspodcast on Instagram. To have your say on our topics, join our private Facebook group, 'After Work Drinks Podcast'. Recommendations:A Little Life by Hanya YanagiharaGiovanni's Room by James BaldwinNick Cave's The Red Hand FilesAmerican Crime Story: The Assassination of Gianni Versace'How To Fail' podcast with Dolly AldertonThe State of Affairs by Esther PerelMarriage: An Investigation on 'The Cut' https://www.thecut.com/2019/03/marriage-an-investigation.htmlYou can email us on [email protected]

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With the rise of the 'attention economy' and food, shopping, men and, well, literally everything a mere button away - we've all become impatient psychopaths. Or at least that's how Isabelle and Grace feel anyway. How much of patience has to do with being in control? And how is our lack of it affecting everything from our relationships to our mental health? Plus, Jacinda Ardern's response to the Christchurch terror attack proves that when women stop trying to lead like men, we excel. And let's talk 'The Ick' - fundamental part of dating? Or another sign that we're the generation who simply can't stick things out?Recommendations:Movies: Colette, UsPodcasts: The Daily - One Family's Story of Survival and Loss in NZLupita Nyong'o on GoopHere’s the thing with Alec Baldwin Jeffrey Toobin and Susan OrleanThe Cut on Tuesdays - How Rukmini Callimachi Gets It Done Books: A Little Life by Hanya YanagiharaThe People Vs OJ Simpson by Jeffrey ToobinArticles: bell hooks interviews Lil Kim for Paperhttp://www.papermag.com/lil-kim-bell-hooks1-1427357106.html?rebelltitem=62#rebelltitem62‘What Happens When Women Stop Leading Like Men’ by Tina Brown for the New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/30/opinion/women-leadership-jacinda-ardern.html?fbclid=IwAR0WA4kruhqkPRIE15V03VEYgcXNDQUt3U-RcoKORcJ3lY_ZZ_7FxvvdDk0'The Ick” Is Bullshit & We’ve Gotta Stop Using It As A Reason To Break Up' by Melissa Mason for Pedestrian TVhttps://www.pedestrian.tv/dating/the-ick-dating-reason-break-up/'Can a Control Freak Self-Teach Patience? I’m Trying' by Leandra Medine for Man Repellerhttps://www.manrepeller.com/2017/04/developing-patience-when-youre-impatient.html

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Isabelle is back from Africa where she had an obnoxiously luxe few weeks (and met a racist named Lindy). We talk Elizabeth Holmes - the scandal everyone can't seem to get enough of. And in the wake of another ambition-gone-wrong tale, we question: Is ambition overrated? And are we working ourselves to death out of fear not doing so is going to let the feminist side down? Plus, a deep-dive on the Madeline McCann documentary. Read:On Michael Jackson by Margo Jefferson https://www.booktopia.com.au/on-michael-jackson-margo-jefferson/prod9781783784202.htmlAdele by Leila Slimanihttps://www.booktopia.com.au/adele-leila-slimani/prod9780571331956.htmlEverything I Know About Love by Dolly Alderton https://www.penguin.com.au/books/everything-i-know-about-love-9780241982105The Argument podcasthttps://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-new-york-times/the-argumentTo Live and Die In LA podcast (2019)https://www.radio.com/media/podcast/live-and-die-laUs (2019) by Jordan Peelehttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt6857112/'The Ending of 'Us' Explained' by Grace O'Neill for ELLE.com.auhttps://www.elle.com.au/culture/us-movie-ending-explained-20150New York Times' The Daily Podcast: 'How New Zealand Banned Assault Rifles in 7 Days'https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/podcasts/the-daily/new-zealand-gun-ban.htmlPandora Sykes' for The Times: 'Is an Obsession With Achievement Holding You Back?'https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fomog-fear-missing-out-goals-is-obsession-achievement-holding-you-back-x3l06dmnpThe Ambition Collision by Lisa Miller for The Cut https://www.thecut.com/2017/09/what-happens-to-ambition-in-your-30s.htmlThe Dropout podcast (2019)http://abcradio.com/podcasts/the-dropout/The Inventor: Out For Blood in Silicon Valley (2019) by Alex Gibney and HBOhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt8488126/'The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann' (2019) on Netflixhttps://www.netflix.com/title/80194956You can email us on [email protected], follow us on Instagram at @afterworkdrinkspodcast or join our private Facebook group, 'After Work Drinks Podcast.'

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Surprise! It’s an early edition of After Work Drinks this week because let’s be honest, there’s nothing we’re going to want to talk about more than the Michael Jackson documentary (and shocking allegations of abuse in Leaving Neverland). Unlike R. Kelly’s ‘Ignition’, it feels futile and impossible to try and ban or remove Michael Jackson’s music so, if we believe Wade and James, how do we move forward? And why, after all we’ve learned from #MeToo, are we still seeing the credibility of victims be viciously undermined? Plus, on a lighter note, we have a few good watches, reads and listens to ingest and Zadie Smith’s tip for productivity. This episode deals with heavy issues including childhood sexual abuse. While we made the conscious decision not to discuss the allegations in any graphic detail, the topic may be distressing for some listeners. If you feel you need help, the below resources are helpful:Lifeline: 13 11 141800 RESPECT: 1800 737 732ChildWise: 1300 244 539Recommendations:Calypso by David Sedarishttps://www.booktopia.com.au/calypso-david-sedaris/prod9781408707821.htmlThe White Album by Joan Didionhttps://www.booktopia.com.au/the-white-album-joan-didion/prod9780374532079.htmlRussian Doll on Netflixhttps://www.netflix.com/title/80211627 Exposed: The Case of Keli Lane on ABChttps://iview.abc.net.au/show/exposed-the-case-of-keli-lane Esther Perel in the New Yorkerhttps://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-interview/love-is-not-a-permanent-state-of-enthusiasm-an-interview-with-esther-perel ‘Where Should We Begin?’ by Esther Perel season three on Audiblehttps://www.audible.com.au/pd/Esther-Perels-Where-Should-We-Begin-The-Arc-of-Love-Audiobook/B07H7P2DPR Difficult Women by Roxanne Gayhttps://www.hachette.com.au/roxane-gay/difficult-womenThe Cut on Tuesdays https://www.gimletmedia.com/the-cut-on-tuesdaysThe OA - Netflix https://www.netflix.com/title/80044950Zadie Smith on The Toure Showhttps://www.stitcher.com/podcast/cadence13/toure-show/e/53184632Leaving Neverland by Dan Reed and HBOhttps://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/leaving-neverland/2019/3/leaving-neverland--part-2 'Reckoning with the Real Michael Jackson' The New York Times' The Dailyhttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/08/podcasts/the-daily/michael-jackson-abuse-leaving-neverland.htmlThe Michael Jackson accusers: ‘The abuse didn’t feel strange, because he was like a god’ by Hadley Freeman in The Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/mar/04/the-michael-jackson-accusers-the-abuse-didnt-feel-strange-because-he-was-like-a-god‘Why Oprah’s ‘Neverland’ special was so important’ by Taylor Weatherby for Billboardhttps://www.billboard.com/articles/news/8501577/why-oprahs-leaving-neverland-special-was-so-important

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This episode our long awaited debrief of ~the~ celebrity interview of 2019 is here (It's irony people! That was obviously the Biebers). Grace is still espousing Konspiracy theories – but overall we’re just kind of bored of all this Kardashian business. Is 2019 the year we official stop karing about them altogether? Plus, Johnny Depp is suing Amber Heard for $70 million and it has, strangely, ignited some more girl-on-girl hatred toward Amber Heard. Why does she still inspire so much fury? And what does it say about feminism that we still can't make sense of the Depp/Heard allegations in 2019? Younger (watch at your own risk)https://www.stan.com.au/watch/youngerHappy Face podcasthttps://www.thehappyfacepodcast.com/Who the Hell is Hamish? podcasthttps://www.theaustralian.com.au/podcasts/podcast-who-the-hell-is-hamish/news-story/c95b519a9ececa6076df80bd130ba158Madeleine McCann docoseries coming to Netflix, here's the Nine podcast (disclaimer: I haven't listened to more than 20 mins):https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/04/10/43/maddie-podcast-episodes-what-happened-madeleine-mccannDrown by Junot DiazAmsterdam by Ian McEwanPamela Adlon on NPR’s ‘Fresh Air’ podcastLouis CK on Marc Maron’s ‘WTF’ podcastYou can email us on [email protected], follow us on Instagram at @afterworkdrinkspodcast or join our private Facebook group, 'After Work Drinks Podcast.'

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